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Bent over by dealer for Stage 2 install

Old Aug 29, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Thumbs down Bent over by dealer for Stage 2 install

I ordered my stage 2 a month ago. Recieved it about two weeks later. Dealer scheduled me for the install today, at 9:00am. Went to the dealer at 5:00pm and they said it wasn't done yet.

According to the service manager, they had a massive problem removing the pulley. Then they supposedly had a problem putting the new one on. They said they had to take it to a metal shop and have them work the inner opening.

I am assuming they are going to charge me for at least six hours. It is hard for me to imagine it taking more than 4 hours, even with a fitting issue.

Oh, well. Once I get the bill I will update the post.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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no im pretty sure they will only charge you for the time its supposed to take which i think is an hour and half
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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There's no telling what they'll try to pull, don't let em dude.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Mine took 3 hours but I was charged only for 2.5. Don't let them screw you without a kiss first.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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******* Dealer NOOBS..
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Don't worry guys, if they try to shaft me I'll give a fight. I just wanted to post so others may learn from my mistakes.

There is only two Chevy dealers in the area and neither had done the Stage two upgrades before. I picked the lesser of the two evils.

If I do not post to this thread by tomorrow night it means I am in jail for whipping a@@!!!
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sys_tech
I ordered my stage 2 a month ago. Recieved it about two weeks later. Dealer scheduled me for the install today, at 9:00am. Went to the dealer at 5:00pm and they said it wasn't done yet.

According to the service manager, they had a massive problem removing the pulley. Then they supposedly had a problem putting the new one on. They said they had to take it to a metal shop and have them work the inner opening.

I am assuming they are going to charge me for at least six hours. It is hard for me to imagine it taking more than 4 hours, even with a fitting issue.

Oh, well. Once I get the bill I will update the post.

This is why i do my own work....screw GM techs.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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where are you in Virginia..??
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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When I got my stage 2 I dropped the car at the dealer @ 8am. I did not leave until nearly 4. The dealer had never done a stage 2 install, they had to make a tool to get the pulley on (or so he said). I was so scared when I left. I found a couple of my husbands friends in town & asked them if everything looked ok. I was only charged 198 or 196. I just never heard of any one making a tool. Car runs great so I am happy. I hope all goes well with your car.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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When I had my Stage 2 installed I dropped it off at 7AM and got a rental (also had them do some warranty work at the same time so GM picked up the tab on the rental) and made sure they had already quoted me the price for the job. When I picked it up at 5PM they had just finished and said it took WAY longer then it was supposed to, but since I had it in writing that it was going to cost, I think it was $300 or $315, they bitched a little about how I should have to pay more but couldn't really do much about it. Also get a quote in writing so they can't try and F*** you. Of course it helps to have a fairly honest (and I use honest loosely here) dealership too.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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When I got my stage 2 I dropped the car at the dealer @ 8am. I did not leave until nearly 4. The dealer had never done a stage 2 install, they had to make a tool to get the pulley on (or so he said). I was so scared when I left. I found a couple of my husbands friends in town & asked them if everything looked ok. I was only charged 198 or 196. I just never heard of any one making a tool. Car runs great so I am happy. I hope all goes well with your car.
they use basically a power steering puller, thats what i use for my pulley changes, works like a charm, i love these gigits gadgets people try to make up like its something "special"
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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i went in and had mine quoted. with and oil change, tire rotation, and stage 2 kit, it was $910.

i was charged $840 for the kit plus install (+tax). i signed that price b4 they even started. they worked on the car for 4hrs and only charged me an hour for install.

the parts guy tried to give it to me less.... but it didnt clear with the manager. oh well. :P
moral of the story: know what you are buying b4 you commit

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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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looks like most of you got screwed

i got charged 638 for the kit and only 40 dollars an hour for install (120 bucks) after tax it came out to like 818

i got the cheap install rate because the person who runs the service department is the son of the owner of the dealership and he races a cobalt

the place is pimp too cuz if u buy a new car there you get a 10year/10000mile warranty cuz the owner pays for it lol

so if u live anywhere close you should come this way to buy a new car
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sys_tech
I ordered my stage 2 a month ago. Recieved it about two weeks later. Dealer scheduled me for the install today, at 9:00am. Went to the dealer at 5:00pm and they said it wasn't done yet.

According to the service manager, they had a massive problem removing the pulley. Then they supposedly had a problem putting the new one on. They said they had to take it to a metal shop and have them work the inner opening.

I am assuming they are going to charge me for at least six hours. It is hard for me to imagine it taking more than 4 hours, even with a fitting issue.

Oh, well. Once I get the bill I will update the post.

Bro the same thing happened to me. They had to keep the car overnight because of the supercharger. They said they wanted to take their time with it. I'm glad they did.
Your install price should stay reasonable. Mine was about $325.00
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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good luck man!
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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DAMN... thats why I do it myself... it takes me less than an hour to do a pulley, injector swap and a tune.... (base premade of course)... thats why I'll never go to a stealership
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
DAMN... thats why I do it myself... it takes me less than an hour to do a pulley, injector swap and a tune.... (base premade of course)... thats why I'll never go to a stealership
Yeah I would normaly do it myself too but back when I got mine the word was that a dealership had to do the install to keep it under warranty.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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True....
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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True....
Yeah, it was all false lies and propaganda!
I think we have now found out it realy dosen't matter.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Expect to pay for 3 hours MAX. More than that dont pay. I was charged for three hours but I was there for the whole install so it was well worth it. I kinda thought it was nice, taking the time to show me everything and all (Ive never seen a SC pulley swap like all your pros out there). They did have a hard time getting the pulley off, they had to put it on the press.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Yeah, it was all false lies and propaganda!
I think we have now found out it realy dosen't matter.
That would be like a dealer refusing a warranty because you changed your own oil, or did took it somewhere else that didn't charge $85 for an oil change. All getting it done at a dealership will do is guaruntee the work - i.e., if an injector leaks or something, it's thier problem where if you did it it would be yours.

I'm really thinking of doing this to my car. I'm still in the air over doing the GM Stage 2 vs an Intense Stage 4 - I'd like the power, but I like my warranty too. I have a brother thats the sales manager at a Saturn delaership, so I think I may be able to get the parts through him at cost or close to it if I go the GM route, then do the install myself at the garage I worked at (still allowed to do my own work there), and then bring it back to the Saturn dealership and get a sweet labor rate on getting the ECM reflashed.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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they use basically a power steering puller, thats what i use for my pulley changes, works like a charm, i love these gigits gadgets people try to make up like its something "special"
How would they use a power steering pulley puller, there's no lip on the pulley for the puller to grab? I think the problem they all have is that they don't have a tool that actually pushes the pulley off the S/C. The instructions say:
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"Use press to remove pulley from Supercharger asembly. Do not apply force to Supercharger housing during this removal.

Step 14
"Use press to install new hub to Supercharger assembly. Make sure that hub is pressed flush to shaft."

So none of the dealers have a press to remove the pulley?
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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just because they dont know how to do something doesnt mean they should charge you more....

if you get it done at a dealership only go to one that has done it before

i went to the dealership that i bought my car from and they wanted over 300 to install it

went to a different dealership that has actually done it before and was charged 120
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BradyB
How would they use a power steering pulley puller, there's no lip on the pulley for the puller to grab? I think the problem they all have is that they don't have a tool that actually pushes the pulley off the S/C. The instructions say:
Step 13
"Use press to remove pulley from Supercharger asembly. Do not apply force to Supercharger housing during this removal.

Step 14
"Use press to install new hub to Supercharger assembly. Make sure that hub is pressed flush to shaft."

So none of the dealers have a press to remove the pulley?
it works man, i have done this several times.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Theres no lip? The pulley is the lip. and your not forcing the supercharger at all by doing this. The tool the gm techs use are garbage and only work if your pulley is loose enough.
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