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#51
I don't doubt that you are a competent tuner and clearly you are doing fine at what you do, and I guess we just have a disagreement on what is the proper way to build a car. I would much rather error on the side of safety and go all out on the cooling mods then I would risk it a little. I guess that's just me, but that's what I was taught as proper when I was growing up. To each their own I guess.
I would rather spend my money on traction mods before I start throwing on pulleys and such, the biggest issue with the Cobalt is not power but it's traction so for those all important quartermile times you can probably gain more out of mounts, and traction bars then you can out of stage 2. Again that's just my opinion.
I don't have Cobalt tuning experience yet, but I have some LS1 experience and I was taught how to tune on a DSM. I feel like my opinion is very valid when we are talking about engine building because I've been there just not on the Cobalt yet. I'm doing my research before I start throwing money at it.
I would rather spend my money on traction mods before I start throwing on pulleys and such, the biggest issue with the Cobalt is not power but it's traction so for those all important quartermile times you can probably gain more out of mounts, and traction bars then you can out of stage 2. Again that's just my opinion.
I don't have Cobalt tuning experience yet, but I have some LS1 experience and I was taught how to tune on a DSM. I feel like my opinion is very valid when we are talking about engine building because I've been there just not on the Cobalt yet. I'm doing my research before I start throwing money at it.
#52
I don't doubt that you are a competent tuner and clearly you are doing fine at what you do, and I guess we just have a disagreement on what is the proper way to build a car. I would much rather error on the side of safety and go all out on the cooling mods then I would risk it a little. I guess that's just me, but that's what I was taught as proper when I was growing up. To each their own I guess.
I would rather spend my money on traction mods before I start throwing on pulleys and such, the biggest issue with the Cobalt is not power but it's traction so for those all important quartermile times you can probably gain more out of mounts, and traction bars then you can out of stage 2. Again that's just my opinion.
I don't have Cobalt tuning experience yet, but I have some LS1 experience and I was taught how to tune on a DSM. I feel like my opinion is very valid when we are talking about engine building because I've been there just not on the Cobalt yet. I'm doing my research before I start throwing money at it.
I would rather spend my money on traction mods before I start throwing on pulleys and such, the biggest issue with the Cobalt is not power but it's traction so for those all important quartermile times you can probably gain more out of mounts, and traction bars then you can out of stage 2. Again that's just my opinion.
I don't have Cobalt tuning experience yet, but I have some LS1 experience and I was taught how to tune on a DSM. I feel like my opinion is very valid when we are talking about engine building because I've been there just not on the Cobalt yet. I'm doing my research before I start throwing money at it.
needs to be said over and over again, people need that forced down there neck before they can mod there car.
i had poly trannie mounts and engine mounts, plus poly suspension bushings before i went beyond my 2.9/42's....its to hard to hold down if you plan on hitting the almighty 1320 offten
#56
yeah, but I would replace all the mounts, and probably get traction bars. I think you would see a rather big drop in quartermile times. Then you are prepared to hook up whatever power you throw at the car.
lucky duck.
lucky duck.
#58
#60
Wow , someone doesnt like reliability , if you use 42lb injectors with a 2.8 your (im gonna say this slow) I-N-J-E-C-T-O-R D-U-T-Y C-Y-C-L-E , will be WAY over 100% when if your looking for a reliable car you dont want your IDC to go over 90% , good call on the 2.8 and 42lbers
here are all the threads telling you NOT to run 42 lbers on a 2.8 maybe you should read them before your reading the gm build book
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
oh and here ill even throw in a thread where , rob the guy that runs a 12.8 and 06fastss OWN you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
here are all the threads telling you NOT to run 42 lbers on a 2.8 maybe you should read them before your reading the gm build book
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
oh and here ill even throw in a thread where , rob the guy that runs a 12.8 and 06fastss OWN you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
Last edited by Red2.4SS/SC; 03-18-2007 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#61
#62
#63
Wow , someone doesnt like reliability , if you use 42lb injectors with a 2.8 your (im gonna say this slow) I-N-J-E-C-T-O-R D-U-T-Y C-Y-C-L-E , will be WAY over 100% when if your looking for a reliable car you dont want your IDC to go over 90% , good call on the 2.8 and 42lbers
here are all the threads telling you NOT to run 42 lbers on a 2.8 maybe you should read them before your reading the gm build book
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
oh and here ill even throw in a thread where , rob the guy that runs a 12.8 and 06fastss OWN you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
here are all the threads telling you NOT to run 42 lbers on a 2.8 maybe you should read them before your reading the gm build book
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
oh and here ill even throw in a thread where , rob the guy that runs a 12.8 and 06fastss OWN you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
a 2.8 on 42.5lbers produces a safe air fuel ratio...roughly 11.8 at the top end
IDC is over 100%...yess I know that...but the afr is safe (ever seen a stock ss/sc,irl iidc...its 95% stock)
and brian...i was just saying if ur gonna go that route dont waste even mroe money on the gm pulley upgrade...get ur own 2.8 and save some cash
gm is lowest on my list in terms of hp/$
edit: LOLOMG...that thread i made FOR rob showing that stock idcs were too high in reply to rev it up motorsports claiming a 2.8 w/ a smt-6 was safe
Right after that post i ordered a maf-t and 42.5lbers...then had 60lbers and hptuners 3 days after it was released
Owned?...i think not
Wow , someone doesnt like reliability , if you use 42lb injectors with a 2.8 your (im gonna say this slow) I-N-J-E-C-T-O-R D-U-T-Y C-Y-C-L-E , will be WAY over 100% when if your looking for a reliable car you dont want your IDC to go over 90% , good call on the 2.8 and 42lbers
here are all the threads telling you NOT to run 42 lbers on a 2.8 maybe you should read them before your reading the gm build book
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
oh and here ill even throw in a thread where , rob the guy that runs a 12.8 and 06fastss OWN you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
here are all the threads telling you NOT to run 42 lbers on a 2.8 maybe you should read them before your reading the gm build book
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
oh and here ill even throw in a thread where , rob the guy that runs a 12.8 and 06fastss OWN you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...light=42lb+2.8
Riddle me this riddle me that...what is the idc on gm stage 3 with their recommended 42.5lb injectors, 2.9" pulley, and 8000rpm
i suggest u fire up hotmail and send gmpp a dirty email about idc
less QQ more pew pew
Last edited by djt81185; 03-19-2007 at 09:59 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#64
Ya i know rob well...ive stay at his house, drove his car, and learned to tune from him
a 2.8 on 42.5lbers produces a safe air fuel ratio...roughly 11.8 at the top end
IDC is over 100%...yess I know that...but the afr is safe (ever seen a stock ss/sc,irl iidc...its 95% stock)
and brian...i was just saying if ur gonna go that route dont waste even mroe money on the gm pulley upgrade...get ur own 2.8 and save some cash
gm is lowest on my list in terms of hp/$
edit: LOLOMG...that thread i made FOR rob showing that stock idcs were too high in reply to rev it up motorsports claiming a 2.8 w/ a smt-6 was safe
Right after that post i ordered a maf-t and 42.5lbers...then had 60lbers and hptuners 3 days after it was released
Owned?...i think not
Ill throw you another math challenge...get out ur idc calculators
Riddle me this riddle me that...what is the idc on gm stage 3 with their recommended 42.5lb injectors, 2.9" pulley, and 8000rpm
i suggest u fire up hotmail and send gmpp a dirty email about idc
less QQ more pew pew
a 2.8 on 42.5lbers produces a safe air fuel ratio...roughly 11.8 at the top end
IDC is over 100%...yess I know that...but the afr is safe (ever seen a stock ss/sc,irl iidc...its 95% stock)
and brian...i was just saying if ur gonna go that route dont waste even mroe money on the gm pulley upgrade...get ur own 2.8 and save some cash
gm is lowest on my list in terms of hp/$
edit: LOLOMG...that thread i made FOR rob showing that stock idcs were too high in reply to rev it up motorsports claiming a 2.8 w/ a smt-6 was safe
Right after that post i ordered a maf-t and 42.5lbers...then had 60lbers and hptuners 3 days after it was released
Owned?...i think not
Ill throw you another math challenge...get out ur idc calculators
Riddle me this riddle me that...what is the idc on gm stage 3 with their recommended 42.5lb injectors, 2.9" pulley, and 8000rpm
i suggest u fire up hotmail and send gmpp a dirty email about idc
less QQ more pew pew
#66
Ya i know rob well...ive stay at his house, drove his car, and learned to tune from him
a 2.8 on 42.5lbers produces a safe air fuel ratio...roughly 11.8 at the top end
IDC is over 100%...yess I know that...but the afr is safe (ever seen a stock ss/sc,irl iidc...its 95% stock)
and brian...i was just saying if ur gonna go that route dont waste even mroe money on the gm pulley upgrade...get ur own 2.8 and save some cash
gm is lowest on my list in terms of hp/$
edit: LOLOMG...that thread i made FOR rob showing that stock idcs were too high in reply to rev it up motorsports claiming a 2.8 w/ a smt-6 was safe
Right after that post i ordered a maf-t and 42.5lbers...then had 60lbers and hptuners 3 days after it was released
Owned?...i think not
Ill throw you another math challenge...get out ur idc calculators
Riddle me this riddle me that...what is the idc on gm stage 3 with their recommended 42.5lb injectors, 2.9" pulley, and 8000rpm
i suggest u fire up hotmail and send gmpp a dirty email about idc
less QQ more pew pew
a 2.8 on 42.5lbers produces a safe air fuel ratio...roughly 11.8 at the top end
IDC is over 100%...yess I know that...but the afr is safe (ever seen a stock ss/sc,irl iidc...its 95% stock)
and brian...i was just saying if ur gonna go that route dont waste even mroe money on the gm pulley upgrade...get ur own 2.8 and save some cash
gm is lowest on my list in terms of hp/$
edit: LOLOMG...that thread i made FOR rob showing that stock idcs were too high in reply to rev it up motorsports claiming a 2.8 w/ a smt-6 was safe
Right after that post i ordered a maf-t and 42.5lbers...then had 60lbers and hptuners 3 days after it was released
Owned?...i think not
Ill throw you another math challenge...get out ur idc calculators
Riddle me this riddle me that...what is the idc on gm stage 3 with their recommended 42.5lb injectors, 2.9" pulley, and 8000rpm
i suggest u fire up hotmail and send gmpp a dirty email about idc
less QQ more pew pew
lol i like the gt stg3 IDC comment, what a horrible idea by GM...
you know i was just givein ya **** pookie
#69
changed my mind about stage two, goin with a 2.7 pulley, 2 step plugs, 42 lbers, harness, shortened belt.. thanks for all the help and arguing..lol.. i found someone close by to help with install and has hp tuners
#70
do yourself a favor and get 60lb injectors, they allow for more headroom if you end up modding in the future.
#71