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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Best Wideband...

I'm looking to get a wideband Air fuel Ratio gauge. Ive searched and didn't find much.

I want to run the wideband through my interceptor, what brand (NGK, AEM, LC-1, etc.) would work the best and would be cheapest to run through the interceptor?

How exactly would I setup the wideband to run through the interceptor? Just connect to analog 1 or 2 and be done? A simple explanation would be awesome!

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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I like the AEM or the NGK personally.

The widebands have a 5v output that you hook up to your interceptor and well I think thats it but not 100% on that cause I dont have a interceptor.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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I like the AEM or the NGK personally.

The widebands have a 5v output that you hook up to your interceptor and well I think thats it but not 100% on that cause I dont have a interceptor.
Is there really any difference between the 2? I don't have a ton of money and I'm a little worried about my car this winter. Anyway to go cheaper? Thanx, again.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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PLX is out there also but I have never used one of them honestly. The NGK is supposed to be the most accurate from what I have read and been told. I look at it this way $280 is cheaper than buying a motor.

The AEM is a round 52mm gauge and the NGK is a little square black box. Both priced close to the same also.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
Is there really any difference between the 2? I don't have a ton of money and I'm a little worried about my car this winter. Anyway to go cheaper? Thanx, again.

To be honest, I have been looking for the same setup as you are stating, and the cheapest price is $199 for the LM-1 (Brand New) without the gauge...and this is through Ebay....and the LM-1 you can hook up throught your interceptor...
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DWK5150
PLX is out there also but I have never used one of them honestly. The NGK is supposed to be the most accurate from what I have read and been told. I look at it this way $280 is cheaper than buying a motor.

The AEM is a round 52mm gauge and the NGK is a little square black box. Both priced close to the same also.
I totally agree with you on buying a new motor. But, I am broke and just want some way to minitor my Air fuel.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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To be honest, I have been looking for the same setup as you are stating, and the cheapest price is $199 for the LM-1 (Brand New) without the gauge...and this is through Ebay....and the LM-1 you can hook up throught your interceptor...
Is this a good sensor? Quality, accuracy?

Do you know if I have to calibrate anything when running through the interceptor?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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WOW you can run a wideband through the interceptor?

If that was the case why doesn't the interceptor have an AFR function itself?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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because then it would need a bung to be welded in the exhaust sytem, and a sensor ran for that.


it just reads the info from the computer. nothing from external sensors.

but you can run 2 actually

at least 2 analog inputs on the interceptor
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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plx is a great setup. i've used them for my tib and dsm
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
WOW you can run a wideband through the interceptor?

If that was the case why doesn't the interceptor have an AFR function itself?
You can run anything with an 0-5v output through the interceptor I'm just not sure how to program it.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
You can run anything with an 0-5v output through the interceptor I'm just not sure how to program it.
It looks like its pretty easy, I read in the manual how to do it and it seems pretty straight forward...
http://www.aeroforcetech.com/files/I..._version_2.pdf
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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I have the NGK Powerdex, it doesn't seem to be all that accurate. I reads 14.4 roughly at idle and cruise, when I know it should be around 14.7 but it nevers gets there. So it's either the car or the gauge and I think it's the gauge.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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because then it would need a bung to be welded in the exhaust sytem, and a sensor ran for that.


it just reads the info from the computer. nothing from external sensors.

but you can run 2 actually

at least 2 analog inputs on the interceptor
OK so does the Interceptor have it's own AFR function with info from the CPU?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnboy12358
It looks like its pretty easy, I read in the manual how to do it and it seems pretty straight forward...
http://www.aeroforcetech.com/files/I..._version_2.pdf
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Now I feel stupid! I didn't even think to look in the manual, lol. Thanx
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
OK so does the Interceptor have it's own AFR function with info from the CPU?
No, if it did it would basicly be a narrow band anyway and would be useless other than the light show (which the interceptor doesn't have).
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what he said ^

to get acurate a reading needs to be taken from the exhaust. (pre cat i belive.. is this right?)
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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what he said ^

to get acurate a reading needs to be taken from the exhaust. (pre cat i belive.. is this right?)
I know a real wideband uses a sensor and an Interceptor doesn't. OK so an Interceptor doesn't read AFR through the OBDII port. Why are people hooking up their wideband to the Interceptor then? Is it just for power?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
I know a real wideband uses a sensor and an Interceptor doesn't. OK so an Interceptor doesn't read AFR through the OBDII port. Why are people hooking up their wideband to the Interceptor then? Is it just for power?
So the wideband read out is through the interceptor so we don't have to put more gauges in.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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from what i hear your not going to get to much info other than the light show.

but hey im putting in a cobalt matched AF guage into the 3 pod
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by R33P3R007
what he said ^

to get acurate a reading needs to be taken from the exhaust. (pre cat i belive.. is this right?)
Yes. The closer to the motor, the more accurate.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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from what i hear your not going to get to much info other than the light show.

but hey im putting in a cobalt matched AF guage into the 3 pod
Who asked you?



lol, just joking Curtis. You are going narrow band?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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from what i hear your not going to get to much info other than the light show.

but hey im putting in a cobalt matched AF guage into the 3 pod
The "light show" is from using a "Air/Fuel Gauge" alone...

A wideband sensor will tell you the exact # air/fuel ratio you're run.

Stock, you have a narrow-band sensor (O2 Sensor), to get an exact #, you need to put another sensor on your exhaust system...this is a wide-band sensor. With the gauge and sensor combo, you'll be able to read your air/fuel ratio correctly.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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slightly off topic, do they make an interceptor that will work with the 2.4 yet?
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