riceburner

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oh thats right he went gmr he was talking about going ott's for a while

i wanna see someone run em

TStone

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The cams are nothing but a couple specs on a website...

You can't say they will be anything until someone actually tries them.

andrewcarr1993

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Why does everyone complain about the solid lifters when their just $260 to do it right with the GMR cams.

TStone

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lol

andrewcarr1993

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What, I honestly don't know. I mean yeah it's $260 (or is it $360?) but you have everything apart and are doing the springs at the same time most likely too.

mrbelvedere

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actually yes I can you need to change how you look at things or just stay in the pen with the rest of the sheep where its safe

because its more then solid lash adjusters you need longer valves also to put the geometry back right

andrewcarr1993

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Okay, didn't know thanks for answering that. Just remember seeing the lifters and just thinking their not all that expensive. Should have figured there was quite a bit else that had to be done.

mrbelvedere

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the main cost is in setting the head up that is extremely time consuming

SPDDMN36

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Yes sir I did. I too want to see someone run ottp s4 cams, and I'm sure they exist. I had a long conversation with Josh about them. He told me the power band hits full swing about at 2500 and peak power about 7600 but with more mods you can expect power much further.

As for my GMR setup, I'm currently in coordinating install and machining. Bit costly yes but I think it'll be worth it in the end.

mrbelvedere

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bates is the man on that id discuss it with him

Staged07SS

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valve springs are a requirement with cams.... not just a might as well mod.

Sunburst_SS

I will be doing a set of ottp stage 3s here shortly.....placing the order with ottp as soon as he grts back in touch with me

mrbelvedere

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go stg4

jrmotosports 88

click

Sunburst_SS

How would the stage 4 be for daily driving?

mrbelvedere

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mine drives better then a stock car it has a lot more power everywhere under normal driving

Sunburst_SS

Need to run adjustable gears??

mrbelvedere

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i would discuss it with them one thing i do not know is how they are setting the up for my own personal thing i would run the adj gears and check the cams and adj as needed and put my own hex in i would do the same for zzp cams also

Staged07SS

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Josh claims the cams are degreed and ready to drop in.

If you don't feel comfortable trusting that, you can purchase adjustable cam gears, and degree everything yourself. The build book explains this procedure.

06ssSuperCo

So if i got the zzp cams i would only have to replace retainers and valvesprings?

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

Retainers and valve springs usually come in a kit, but to answer your question, yes, they are drop in ready.

OTTP's are supposed to be as well, but they are new and I havent heard of anyone running them yet to varify this info.

I run comp/zzp s1 cams, and they dropped in and run perfect with no additional degreeing.

mrbelvedere

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you should always check the cams period

josh6854

With a zzp s2 and there3" exhaust with intake header would I be able to run these cams safely through zzp with nothing else with it?

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

Read what I said old man....

I said they didnt need additional degreeing. This was because they were correct. I checked them upoun my second install when I did the ported head.

You are correct though, they should always be checked.

To run cams safely, you need to upgrade your valvetrain ie. performance springs and retainers. Also, upgrading your timing components is wise as well.... ARP timing chain guide bolts and upgraded tensioner.

Additional bolt ons such as a full exhaust is always beneficial.

advise

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Everyone thinks cams are just drop in
I learned the hard way twice
Measure everything even the cams base circle
My first zzp set Of stage 2 were .21 to big
Then I recently checked my followers clearance to find
That there hitting my retainers, only a few thousands but thats not a terrible fix if using the cam gear holding tool which is like 50bucks
The followers problem is due to the head not being set up properly by m2 when the .5mm valves where installed