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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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So im going to take off the intake manifold and i got all the bolts on the top and i was wondering which bolts are on the bottom keeping this thing on?
There is 1 on each side (lower), then the 2 additonal lower ones, you can see with the S/C removed. They technically go through the manifold.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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I was told there is only one on the passenger side that is on the bottom.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Got the intake manifold off to drain the water. I've updated some pics for everyone.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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I went to autozone and rented a code scanner because I had a cel on the dash. When I hooked it up it showed that there were no codes and that it has passed. computer may be dead...?

I then took the supercharger off and to find this



So im going to take off the intake manifold and i got all the bolts on the top and i was wondering which bolts are on the bottom keeping this thing on?
^what are boogers doing in there??
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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A shot or two of brake clean in the plug holes will help things dry out as well, do this after tunring the motor over
x2 thats what i was going to recommend, good thing i decided to read atleast the firstpage :p shoot the brake cleaner in thru the spark plug holes and it will evaporate any water that may be in there with it...do that a few times, look in thru the holes to make sure there isnt any water left, and try again
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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oil + water = boogers
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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oil + water = boogers
I think the OP flicked boogers into his intake and took a picture...
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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Actually that was dirt and water....No oil there buddy :P
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Actually that was dirt and water....No oil there buddy :P
definitely boogers...


Thats a lot of boogers....
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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it'll have some oil, unless you've removed your crankcase breather hose.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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oh yea good point haha.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Do I win?
Do I come in a close second?

The water WAS up to just below the top of the rim. Fired it up and drove it out of the parking-lot-turned-lake and proceeded to literally bail out the interior...

That was 25k miles ago and it still runs great.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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well mine was about that level when she stalled :p
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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When I toasted maf #1 on my SC there was no code. Just an irratic idle. The car should start fine with a bad maf. This sux man, sorry to hear.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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When I toasted maf #1 on my SC there was no code. Just an irratic idle. The car should start fine with a bad maf. This sux man, sorry to hear.
#1? We only have 1 MAF and 1 MAP.

Depends on how bad then... mine wont run at all, nevermind start, without it.

I tried to start it once with the intake off when I was recharging my AC, no chance in hell it was gunna start... Also, my trans place took my intake off and sensor out when I had em replace a clutch and they put my MAF back in backwards and called me panicked cause my car wouldnt start... I told them to check the MAF.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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#1? We only have 1 MAF and 1 MAP.

Depends on how bad then... mine wont run at all, nevermind start, without it.

I tried to start it once with the intake off when I was recharging my AC, no chance in hell it was gunna start... Also, my trans place took my intake off and sensor out when I had em replace a clutch and they put my MAF back in backwards and called me panicked cause my car wouldnt start... I told them to check the MAF.
Yep, I made the mistake of trying to start mine with the intake disconnected. Silly me. I was thinking that I was working on my Jeep, which probably would still run if all you connected up to it was a fuel rail and a battery...
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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#1? We only have 1 MAF and 1 MAP.

Depends on how bad then... mine wont run at all, nevermind start, without it.

I tried to start it once with the intake off when I was recharging my AC, no chance in hell it was gunna start... Also, my trans place took my intake off and sensor out when I had em replace a clutch and they put my MAF back in backwards and called me panicked cause my car wouldnt start... I told them to check the MAF.
I think hes saying he went through a bunch of MAF sensors. I went through one.

Honestly, the placement of the stock airfilter is ******* retarded. Sooo much **** splashes through the splash guard and onto any aftermarket filter u put in there. I always had **** on my AEM cai.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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I think hes saying he went through a bunch of MAF sensors. I went through one.

Honestly, the placement of the stock airfilter is ******* retarded. Sooo much **** splashes through the splash guard and onto any aftermarket filter u put in there. I always had **** on my AEM cai.
Ahhh that makes sence, lol.

Its really the same location as any CAI though. Im missing a piece of the splash guard and my filter is still relatively clean, after 11k miles. I dont have an airbox either, just a K&N.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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The fujita lays a little lower than the injen or k&n I do believe. I would like to make a SRI for the ss if I could.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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The fujita lays a little lower than the injen or k&n I do believe. I would like to make a SRI for the ss if I could.
I used to have a SRI on mine. My coolant overflow is still relocated on the opposite side of the engine bay. Decent IATs while driving, heat soak while idling. Honestly wouldnt go back to it without a functional ram air hood.

S/C whine was crazy loud tho, and especially when the 2.7 pulley was still on it.. deafening if you were standing in front of the engine bay. Only thing I miss about it though.

Swapped the SRI out for a custom intake.. I have the stock intake upper pieces. Removed the airbox, replaced it with a custom piece of tubing for my MAF sensor to plug into and threw a K&N filter on it =]
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
I think hes saying he went through a bunch of MAF sensors. I went through one.

Honestly, the placement of the stock airfilter is ******* retarded. Sooo much **** splashes through the splash guard and onto any aftermarket filter u put in there. I always had **** on my AEM cai.
The entire wheel well on the SC is ***** to be honest. There is no louver in the wheel well vent to deflect water downward, its just a rectangular hole. It's placed perfectly so that water, mud, and animal parts (whatever) get sprayed directly onto the maf and filter. Even if you have the hydroshield, you will still be getting water splashed on the maf itself. Anyone with an intake on an sc , pop your headlight after you finish driving in the rain and check it out. ghey. Also note all the stones and sediment **** on the bottom of your splash guard.

In my case the wheel well was installed incorrectly as well. I didnt pay for Maf #1, and I collected 2 others from wrecking yards which went on my buddies. If you cant fix this yourself (take out the headlight, undo two screws) its gonna cost about 350$ canadian to get fixed. Same maf thats on the z06 vette I have been told.

To fix this I added a couple extra 7mm screws to secure the wheel well, made a custom louver out of resin, and sealed my maf in a balloon.

I had to fix a couple friends cars, all of which used the AEM dryflow like mine. However I had the hydrosheild. In some cases there was evidence of water getting between the maf and intake tube. Brutal. Its amazing what a clean maf\intake, properly gapped plugs, 94 octane and clean injectors will do to an sc.. Makes the 1-2nd bog or 'chug a lug' go away...

The TC's vent is angled higher in the wheel well. That helps immensly. Not sure if thats by design or by accident. However I will not be putting a CAI on this car so I dont have to worry anyway.


TIP: WHEN YOU INSTALL YOUR INTAKE, MAKE SURE YOU ANGLE THE CLAMP BOLT SO THAT YOU CAN LOSEN IT FROM THE HEADLIGHT LOCATION. THAT WAY YOU CAN TAKE THE FILTER OFF BY SIMPLY REMOVING THE HEADLIGHT. You dont have to roll around in winter excrement..

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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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The entire wheel well on the SC is ***** to be honest. There is no louver in the wheel well vent to deflect water downward, its just a rectangular hole. It's placed perfectly so that water, mud, and animal parts (whatever) get sprayed directly onto the maf and filter. Even if you have the hydroshield, you will still be getting water splashed on the maf itself. Anyone with an intake on an sc , pop your headlight after you finish driving in the rain and check it out. ghey. Also note all the stones and sediment **** on the bottom of your splash guard.

In my case the wheel well was installed incorrectly as well. I didnt pay for Maf #1, and I collected 2 others from wrecking yards which went on my buddies. If you cant fix this yourself (take out the headlight, undo two screws) its gonna cost about 350$ canadian to get fixed. Same maf thats on the z06 vette I have been told.

To fix this I added a couple extra 7mm screws to secure the wheel well, made a custom louver out of resin, and sealed my maf in a balloon.

I had to fix a couple friends cars, all of which used the AEM dryflow like mine. However I had the hydrosheild. In some cases there was evidence of water getting between the maf and intake tube. Brutal. Its amazing what a clean maf\intake, properly gapped plugs, 94 octane and clean injectors will do to an sc.. Makes the 1-2nd bog or 'chug a lug' go away...

The TC's vent is angled higher in the wheel well. That helps immensly. Not sure if thats by design or by accident. However I will not be putting a CAI on this car so I dont have to worry anyway.


TIP: WHEN YOU INSTALL YOUR INTAKE, MAKE SURE YOU ANGLE THE CLAMP BOLT SO THAT YOU CAN LOSEN IT FROM THE HEADLIGHT LOCATION. THAT WAY YOU CAN TAKE THE FILTER OFF BY SIMPLY REMOVING THE HEADLIGHT. You dont have to roll around in winter excrement..
I actually figured out how this happens. The hydroshields flxible band thats used to hold the hydroshield in place actually frills up just enough where water and very fine sediment ( sand sized dirt ) actually find its way under the shield.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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I actually figured out how this happens. The hydroshields flxible band thats used to hold the hydroshield in place actually frills up just enough where water and very fine sediment ( sand sized dirt ) actually find its way under the shield.
That's shitty business as well, but not excatly what I am referring to. I am talking about water getting between the maf itself and the tube, bypassing the entire filter. On two Injen intakes the surface needed a gasket to level off. I noticed several "water snakes" leading in from the maf and up toward the intake. No harm to the lsj, valves were great etc. Funny how they ran much better and needed a tune tweak once the maf fitment was snug. I really suggest that anyone with unsteady acceleration and idle check the maf seal as well. Its a street tuners nightmare
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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That's shitty business as well, but not excatly what I am referring to. I am talking about water getting between the maf itself and the tube, bypassing the entire filter. On two Injen intakes the surface needed a gasket to level off. I noticed several "water snakes" leading in from the maf and up toward the intake. No harm to the lsj, valves were great etc. Funny how they ran much better and needed a tune tweak once the maf fitment was snug. I really suggest that anyone with unsteady acceleration and idle check the maf seal as well. Its a street tuners nightmare
I dont remember having a huge problem with this. Thats really fucked. Did you end up taking it out and sealing it somehow? Maybe with some shrink tubing?
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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I dont remember having a huge problem with this. Thats really fucked. Did you end up taking it out and sealing it somehow? Maybe with some shrink tubing?
Made a new gasket for it thats all. The shrink wrap baloon went over the maf. I had the cheepie AEM kit and it was gold.
My buddy snapped the maf bolt off in his intake... You cant over tighten these either...the mositure will sieze the little ****** on too.. lmao... In his case anyway, he needed a gasket.
I guess it's time for my disclaimer and that is I am not indicating any general shortfall in the mighty SS/SC, just my experience.
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