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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking, an LS3 auto 6speed would beat almost every car on this site.
i wasnt even referring to the ls3's. the ls2's are no joke.

for reference. my dad's STOCK 2wd tbss runs 13.5's in the quarter at 102mph. its over 1000lbs heavier than the vette and has the same aerodynamic properties of a brick. put 2 and 2 together
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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then something is terribly wrong. a stick c5 with a good driver is a mid-high 12 second car at 107+ mph



c5's are not just ls1's. auto c6's are not dogs either. they are quicker than 90% of the people on this site in stock form.
so thats why i've beaten an auto ls2 heads up twice in a row? and lost to another one at his bumper? but hey if you want to argue about me quoting what three c6's owners have told me in person, go for it.

and yes, a c5 is just an ls1. z06's on the other hand...
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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so thats why i've beaten an auto ls2 heads up twice in a row? and lost to another one at his bumper? but hey if you want to argue about me quoting what three c6's owners have told me in person, go for it.

and yes, a c5 is just an ls1. z06's on the other hand...
so if its a c5 z06 its not a c5 anymore? calm the hell down. whats the fastest pass you have made at the track?

i would race you any day at the track in a bone stock ls2 vette. from a roll i can see it being a good race, with you possibly winning. but they are not slow by any means.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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so if its a c5 z06 its not a c5 anymore? calm the hell down. whats the fastest pass you have made at the track?

i would race you any day at the track in a bone stock ls2 vette. from a roll i can see it being a good race, with you possibly winning. but they are not slow by any means.
i just said a c5, and by not specifying a c5 z06. it means i'm talking about a base c5. and i never said the ls2 vett's were slow, i just said they aren't unbeatable. why is it that me and you are always cuttin eachother up? lol

heres what we've been talking about on the local track forums.

[quote author=FGB link=topic=14746.msg82907#msg82907 date=1249398125]
I wouldn't be so surprised that you whacked those guys. I figure a stock GT stick is going to be high 13's low 14's and the GTO with an auto and tight convertor is going to be in the same ball park. I know what an auto vette will run 'cause that's what I've got, a red C6 LS2, I haven't seen the vette you've raced but I'll say this, getting mine to hoof it with a 2.56 cog and a auto just ain't happening. I've done OK in the 13.5 index but I really need a couple of tenths. A stick C6 will have it's way with me!
Let's see where is that gear catalogue........
[/quote]

hes talking about the night he watched me race, and beat. an '08 stang gt stick, '06 c6 1lz auto, and an '04 gto auto
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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i can see your point with the autos. i ask you again, what is your best time?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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a weathered LT1 will still muster 260whp provided it has been maintained. The one thing the vette has going for it, is that it probably doesnt have nearly the miles as a Fbody would.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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i can see your point with the autos. i ask you again, what is your best time?
before i've done the most current modding? 13.84@104. since the most recent modding, i dunno. i've only been to the midnight drags and they don't giv eyou slips. its just grudge racing. btw i was trying to edit the other post when the site went down

nvm it got it edited

and not you, but a lot of people on this site fail to realize that racing isn't just ETs, its RTs. ESPECIALLY in heads up racing. and recently out at trp i've been able to pull .070 lights or better. so if you get up against someone that can't do better than a .300....then yeah, you're gonna win

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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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before i've done the most current modding? 13.84@104. since the most recent modding, i dunno. i've only been to the midnight drags and they don't giv eyou slips. its just grudge racing. btw i was trying to edit the other post when the site went down

nvm it got it edited
ill stop with this. bone stock tbss 13.5 at 102. its a 4500lb brick.

LOL do not bring up r/t's into the equation now. you are now taking this from what it was (a car vs car argument) and inserting a driver into the equation. i would have never argued to begin with. of course a more experienced racer will have the MAJOR advantage at the drag strip in two similarly matched cars. now you make my point even better. i would GLADLY race you in a showroom stock ls2 auto vette at the strip.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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ill stop with this. bone stock tbss 13.5 at 102. its a 4500lb brick.
yeah, and? lol
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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my dad has a 93 c4, auto, catback. I've been wanting to run him since i got my cobalt
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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stu i'm bringing reaction time into this because it can make or break a race by anywhere from .001 to .500, not cause of me and the vette. its more to shut the poeple up that say this will be a close race.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
same with the c6's. the auto c6's are dogs unless its geared.


Is that why 7 of the top ten fastest bone stock LS3 C6's are A6's with stock gears?

LT1 C4's are high 13 second cars aslong as they're in good running condition. LT4's are mid 13 second car sand should trap 106+. There are no auto LT4's. Every LT4 only came with a 6spd manual.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:16 AM
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Is that why 7 of the top ten fastest bone stock LS3 C6's are A6's with stock gears?

LT1 C4's are high 13 second cars aslong as they're in good running condition. LT4's are mid 13 second car sand should trap 106+. There are no auto LT4's. Every LT4 only came with a 6spd manual.
i'm talking LS2's.....

.....i know this.... whats your point?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
i'm talking LS2's.....

.....i know this.... whats your point?
If you meant just LS2's you should have stated LS2's. You stated C6's which include LS3's.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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stu i'm bringing reaction time into this because it can make or break a race by anywhere from .001 to .500, not cause of me and the vette. its more to shut the poeple up that say this will be a close race.
take a step back and realize how your argument has changed. you originally said stock ls2 auto vettes were dogs. you said that exact thing, and i said you were wrong. you then said you took some at the track due to a better reaction time basically. see what im getting at?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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A stock C6 LS2 auto can run anywhere from 12.70's to 12.90's with a competent driver . My friend's bone stock 98 c5 (just an LS1 lol) auto went 13.2@ 108...... not super fast ..but decent .

OP you should have any problem with that C4 from a roll. From a dig it will be closer . My LT1 Z28/6sp went 13.5@106 with a catback and intake . While thats not FAST.... it wasnt what i would call a pig .
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
If you meant just LS2's you should have stated LS2's. You stated C6's which include LS3's.
if you would have read all the conversation you would have seen i did say ls2's
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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either way the c6 is trapping 114 and up..... i dont care which motor is in
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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ok back to the original subject i think it will be a close race. when i was stage 2 i would hang with the 6.0l gto from a 40 roll. and a lt1 is a 5.7l
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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either way the c6 is trapping 114 and up..... i dont care which motor is in
wrong.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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ok back to the original subject i think it will be a close race. when i was stage 2 i would hang with the 6.0l gto from a 40 roll. and a lt1 is a 5.7l
here we go again. you must have one special stage 2 car.
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I <3 you stu. lmao
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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I <3 you stu. lmao

no homo. lol
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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ok back to the original subject i think it will be a close race. when i was stage 2 i would hang with the 6.0l gto from a 40 roll. and a lt1 is a 5.7l
here we go again. you must have one special stage 2 car.

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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[QUOTE=hatrickstu;4213916]then something is terribly wrong. a stick c5 with a good driver is a mid-high 12 second car at 107+ mph


sorry its a roll race from 40, and 13.1 was his best time
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