Anytime you do change out/add parts engine there is more power to be had by tunning. Thats why its always suggested that you re tune afterwards so you can reap the most hp from the part. Since its a part that can directly effect your air/fuel mixture It going to change things more than say new plugs would.

You don't HAVE to tune to run alcohol injection. When tunning a car for alcohol injection the car should not be tuned to make the car dependent on it either.

Yes your correct. Since your not going to be redoing your tune "pulling 2-3% fuel out" Then i would recommend that you don't run much larger than a 3gph as to not over fuel.

Yes, the seals in the pumps and all the other parts can handle any mixture of meth. We do recomend a 50/50 mix, we found it to work best for most applications.

I was planing on a sale on the kits around the 1st of march. No waiting on others for group buys pay and it ships the same day if before 4pm central. I will post more about it when its time.

 

it makes you lose your teeth....lol j/k

 

There is all the info you need here, (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/) a.k.a Devils Own.

 

Well, I was thinking about this for one of m next 3-4 mods, But Im thinking here at my deask at work, and I'm all like... Eff it.... I wanna buy one now! lol I havn't done to much home work on the kits aside from a little looking here and there, but Now I think its time for me to compair some prices and see some reviews.... Hi ho Hi ho It meth Injection I go....

 

GB Rite now

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/ais-rear-trunk-mounted-water-meth-group-buy-97720/

 

Haha Devils Own has a standard for like 220.00 or something like that, I highly recommend them.

 

**** i'm waiting on the devils own sale. I'll be getting paid that week!

 

i'm going to have to go with a trunk mount kit. i installed the option b kit last weekend and the extra surge tank went into the space where a tank for the meth kit would go.

 

Thats what i got, and if you have the money get the progressive controller. just make sure and ground the damn thing so you dont bloww it up like i did.

 

Remember, water is a very effective octane enhancer and anti-detonate. While this may sound strange to you at first. Read our article, link posted below, for more information about this.

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html

 

True, but without changing the tune you could not take advantage of it other than the cooling effect. I've dyno'd with 92 gas and 110 gas with no change to tune and got the same results. I've dyno'd with and without water with the same tune and got the same results.

 

When members say you won't gain anything from the methanol injection without a tune this is not true.

Yes, by tuning for it, you can receive the full power benefits available from it.

However, there are still notable benefits to installing a water methanol injection system without any tuning initially. Such notable benefits include dramatically increased engine safety. For example, for users who are already experiencing detonation or on the verge of detonation. By adding a water methanol injection the chance of detonation is greatly reduce and in most cases eliminated.

When installing a water methanol injection system initially without any tuning. Users should run either pure water or a mixture containing 30% or less of methanol with a number 5 or 6 nozzle. By running pure water A/F will not be effected and when running mixtures containing upwards of 30% methanol, A/F is only slightly lowered. A little extra fuel won't hurt nor will it be enough to require tuning.

Let us know if you have any other technical questions or how we can help. Be sure to read our News and Tech sections on our website as we are always adding new information.

Your speaking in terms of power. Yes, power is one way of measuring the benefits of a water methanol injection system. We routinely have customers who have troubles with detonation and by adding a water injection system we can eliminate the onset of detonation. With no other changes other then just the addition of a pure water injection system, we have stopped the onset of detonation. Thereby allowing the user to now take full advantage of his power band.

 

yep, good info. plus your spark plugs get nice and clean Just dont want people to expect to hook up water injection and instantly get 50hp without doing anything else.

 

well the kit i just ordered has a light that tells you its working and a light that tells you its running low and it has a fail safe that when it stops working because of failure of pump or no meth it retunes the car to a safe level

 

Feel free to give us a call directly at 1.801.447.2559 for any technical questions you may have about water methanol injection or our products. We completely understand and support customers doing their own research before adding any type of performance product to their vehicle. Additionally, it's important to know your dealing with a reputable and quality system.

Furthermore, each and every one of our trunk mounted water methanol injection systems is pre-tested, ensuring it is functioning properly before it's packaged and shipped to you. This nearly eliminates the chances of you receiving a defective system. Imagine spending an entire afternoon assembling a competitor's kit only to discover that it is defective. Or worse, a wasted trip and money spent paying a shop to do the install for you. Here at AIS we try to make sure this never happens to you... saving you time, money, and most of all frustration. Proving it pays to deal with us.

Additionally, we realize customer service is crucial to this industry and it's customers. It does us little good to manufacture the best water methanol injection systems if we are not able to advise customers on how best to use them. Our mission isn't simply to sell you a water methanol injection "kit" leaving you holding all the parts. Our mission is to provide you with the highest quality, most effective, simple, and easy to use water methanol injection systems in the industry that are backed by the most informative technical support in the industry.

Be sure to check out a recent engine in which Kenny Duttweiler built using one of our Stage 2 progressive trunk mount systems on a Magnacharged LS2 engine. The video is located on the front page of Magnachargers website. If you look closely you will see our rear trunk mount container in the rear and our two blue hoses gong to the nozzles in the air inlet.

http://magnacharger.com/

 

^^ I did Just look around a Bit, and I think I will be going with you guys. Now I just need to figure out stage 1 or stage 2....


I'll probably give that # a call on the train ride home.... Now I'm a lil anxious to order knowing the sale ends tonight! lol

Actually, heres a Q i'll Ask on the phone unless some can answer it b 4 I can call...


If I bought Stg1 kit... Could I upgrade the parts down the line.... like the things that stg1 doesn't have that stg 2 does, can U get them later on?


I'd love to get the Stg2 + braided lines but thats a lil out of my $$ range

 

I know you can with devils own, so im sure you can with theres also.

 

Ahh well I think I might be all set to order one of these Kits!!! I'm Pumped! Any splicing if the wires for installing?

 

For mine i had to splice into the map censor wire.

 

All of our kits come with Posi-Lock connectors, we have found them to be the easiest connectors to use. Click on the image for a how to use them.

 

Oh sweet! That takes some of the strees out of the wiring!


This whole Meth thing might end up not being as Daunting (sp?) as i had 1st thought it would be.

 

Its real easy, just read the instructions unlike what i did :cough: 150.00 mistake :cough:

 

lol, I'll habe to keep that in mind when I install hahahaha

 

Yea just dont be a D.A like me and make sure you ground the damn thing before you connect it.
And the map censor wire you want is the gray one, pin #4 i believe.

 

Check. Got it. How long did it take you to install about? And where did U run the tubing to the frint of the car?