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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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I drag race atvs. They tend to get a little hot when making back to back passes. So we come up with a cooling solution that might be helpful on ss/sc at the track.

We take a cooler and put copper coil inside of it. Then we fill the cooler with ice. have a pump that is hooked up in series. we have quick disconnect fittings on our radiator hoses.

After a pass we just hook up the cool box and the motor is instantly cool. So why wouldnt this work with the supercharger cooling system.


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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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little confusing, are you just saying, run cold water through the IC coolant system after a pass?
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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Ya after a pass but just cooling the water already in the system. It would pass through the copper coil that is in the ice.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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woul be a little more difficult for a car. harder to get at the components.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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I was wondering were you would have to hook it up at.

This is just a thought.

It really does help our quads out alot!!

check out my our website to see some of the atvs we build.

Lindonracingchassis.com

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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quads also have much smaller blocks and much less coolant. this would only be feasible on an after-market HE for the balts. great idea though! try it out!
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Ok thanks for the input guys.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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I've heard of some guys doing this actually.. This type of set up would be pretty nice to have on those days where its soo damn hot at the track. I usually just avoid going because I know I'm gonna have heat problems.

Do you have any pics of this setup for your atv's?
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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I would be worried about introducing air into the coolant... but if you already had coolant in the coils, there shouldn't be too much air introduced into the system when you connect it... hmmm.. there may be a lot of pressure as well... but i dunno...
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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sounds like there would be possibilities of getting air bubbles in the system with the disconnecting and reconnecting into another system. Is that other part already filled with coolant inside? how would you keep it from leaking out and introducing air bubbles?

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I would be worried about introducing air into the coolant... but if you already had coolant in the coils, there shouldn't be too much air introduced into the system when you connect it... hmmm.. there may be a lot of pressure as well... but i dunno...
damn you already got to it

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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lol... at least two of us were thinking the same thing...
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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I know PatathSS ran a mini- version (Ice Box) of this in his car a few seasons back.

Basically he had a sheet metal canister, with a coil of copper tubing running through it. Hooked up inline with his system. Inbetween runs he loaded the box up with ice. The line running back to his intercooler was pretty chilly. This used with the fan/IC pump bypass switch kept his beast running cool all day at the track
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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IMO, this system would work well but you would have to be really carefull with getting air into the system.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SKCobalt
I would be worried about introducing air into the coolant... but if you already had coolant in the coils, there shouldn't be too much air introduced into the system when you connect it... hmmm.. there may be a lot of pressure as well... but i dunno...
No worries about pressure, it is a very very low pressure system (<5psi).

But as far as running an external cooler like this, as others have said, would be really only practical for those of us with aftermarket HE's in the bumper, otherwise there isn't any where convenient to access the coolant lines. And it would be next to impossible to do without getting air in the system.

But for those of us with Option B, a little air isn't a huge deal, as it will bleed out, but I don't want to be bleeding air out on the 1/4mi
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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i believe bwoody makes something like this, its a icebox like mentioned above. you are just basically making a massive one, that isnt in the car.

actually bwoody only has it for the redlines :P but im sure it would work
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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I think it would be awesome if somehow there was a bypass valve which you could switch on and off that would just divert through a system like that in the car and then you could switch it back and forth for when you run out of ice or just fill it up, then it would be totally sealed and would keep coolant inside and wouldn't have to be bled after being switched.

The only reason i wouldn't want one hard wired to the system is due to the conducting nature of the copper coils, nobody wants that engine heat permeating into the intercooler system after you run out of ice. If you could bypass it once you're done that would be awesome, but i don't know of anyone who makes valves like that.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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alot of people do this just not with these cars, yet. try it out let us know how it works. it cant hurt and it oculd help out alot
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SPRCHRD2007
I drag race atvs. They tend to get a little hot when making back to back passes. So we come up with a cooling solution that might be helpful on ss/sc at the track.

We take a cooler and put copper coil inside of it. Then we fill the cooler with ice. have a pump that is hooked up in series. we have quick disconnect fittings on our radiator hoses.

After a pass we just hook up the cool box and the motor is instantly cool. So why wouldnt this work with the supercharger cooling system.


please post comments.
thanks.
No...it works; as someone said bwoody makes one that you're supposed to use dry ice with but the theory is the same. I think the problems are leaking and cost.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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No...it works; as someone said bwoody makes one that you're supposed to use dry ice with but the theory is the same. I think the problems are leaking and cost.
Yes, we all know this works, but we're talking about 2 different concepts

1) The one Bwoody (and others) make is an Ice Box that goes under the hood, permanently in the system. There is no reason for this to leak (anything but water) if installed properly.

2) What the OP is talking about is a much larger, more efficient, EXTERNAL Ice box that you would only hook up into between rounds.

It would have definite advantages and help bring the IAT temps down much faster than #1. But it requires opening and closing a closed loop coolant system. So introducing air is the only real potential problem
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