The Details To Enhancing Eaton Efficiency

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Nov 22, 2006 | 12:17 AM

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FLCobalt

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wow i read the first page of this thread and all i can say is wow. i thought we were talking about superchargers.

grow up.

Nov 22, 2006 | 12:33 AM

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halfj99

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Originally Posted by FLCobalt

grow up.

right...seriously if you think nobody but gm , eaton and intense can modify the chargers then i feel bad for you, just leave this thread and go ask more "which pully with stg2" questions

Nov 22, 2006 | 12:39 AM

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Tofu

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Originally Posted by TVS_SS

Well.. i would like to state that the M112 on the lightning and Terminator left MUCH to be desired..

If you knew anything about superchargers.. heck, maybe even throwing the unit down the stairs, you could see gains. The Inlets are VERY restrictive due to packaging. Just take a look at that inlet by the firewall..

Look at stiegemeiers site.. almost all his gains are HP.. no real mention of significant torque on the lightning units.. WHY? Because he kills low end supercharger performance for high end gain especially with that stuipd hole in the outlet.. does he even know what he is doing?? NO!. Basically he takes a poor design, modifies it ALOT, and ends up with 'slightly' more power... genius

Here is his rebuilding proceedures.. http://www.stiegemeier.com/blower_repair.html

There is SO MUCH misinformation on that page its not funny.... " Black rotors are Teflon coated" ?!?!?! umm...

Last time i checked.. they definately werent teflon coated..

Okay well first of off you never said anything in your post bashing Stiegemeier about Eaton's M112 casing. That is Eaton's problem not Stiegemeiers. And yes we marked the areas within the casing that needed porting..it's the whole reason we sent it to Stiegemeier in the first place. I never claim to know eveything about roots superchargers but I'm not an idiot. I still don't see how a blower flowing nearly 50% better than stock means he doesn't know what he is doing. And yes my friend did lose about 20ft lbs of torque, but the torque curve carried well past the 4900rpm drop off that it had stock. Peak numbers don't necessarily equate to a better power-band...

Nov 22, 2006 | 01:03 PM

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InfinityzeN

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From: Harker Heights, TX

I have said it before and I'll say it again, I'll trade 20ft/lbs of peak torque if I can raise the average of my torque curve by 20ft/lbs. Long flat torque curves that start slightly before your hard running point and end at or slightly past your shift point (~3.5k to 7k rpms for the SS/SC) are what will net you the most speed.

Even if you have about the same power through most of the hard driving range, if it is very jagged it will cost you speed as well. Thats one of the advantages of a supercharger, especially a twinscrew. It is very easy to get long flat torque curves. Of course, a twinscrew has its own disatvantages compared to a roots (more expensive & complicated, allways producing boost ~slight worse gas mileage).