Thank you. Have a nice day.

 

There were Eatons on GM cars before Jackson Racing even knew what a Honda was over 15 years ago (1992 Bonneville SSEi).....end of story. Something tells me GM (And hence subsequent followers) would know what they were doing with this. If porting the supercharger made it that much more efficient, GM would have done it from the start. There are things to weigh like low end versus top end, reliability versus power.

 

OWNED.

 

where am I?

 

The Twilight Zone.

 

Jackson Racing has been around for over 23 years. Maybe we are in the twilight zone.

http://www.jacksonracing.com/AboutMoss/AboutUs.aspx

 

goddamn can we get some useful info here.... or just straight bitchin.... try this again... anyone have any solid data... flow number or anything to back up the porting.... it is something I'd like to do.,

 

that's a good read, thanks for posting. for those who don't want to read it, i'll tell you everything it says:

blower porting gives you power.


now if i knew that's all it said i wouldn't have spent 5 minutes reading the whole thing

 

it was def a good read,,, but I want some numbers

 

I'll even over-emphasize:
Porting your blower will lower outlet temps and move more air, thus creating horsepower gains. However, there are no results or actual proof of what a ported blower can do on our cars.

 

hey i just seen that guy said eatons rotors were at 120 degrees.... eaton's website says the rotors are twisted to 60 degrees. i wonder if this guy is talking about old blowers or something?

 

I'm sure theres some really good information in that post but I'm WAY WAY WAY too lazy to read all of it. Could someone shorten it up a little? Thanks

 

a couple of posts above:

 

If the eaton doesn't compress air then why does my boost gauge say 16psi

It may not compress the air in the blower housing but it compresses the air.

As for Honda who ******* cares about honda or jackson racing.

 

Best mod award!

 

if u spent anytime at clubsi.com you will know that this guy (the old one) was found to be a total fraud after he screwed some people that were local to him, turns out he works out of his garage and that 4000sq ft shop is a mythical place if its not and this guy is legit whats his real name and what is the adress of the shop that he owns ??

 

Interesting....

 

Hmmmm strange, who knows. Their website says they're over in Ft. Worth.

http://www.theoldone.com/contacts/default.asp

 

You need to post more sir ^^

 

wait wait. correct me if I am wrong. I might have read everything wrong. He is just basiclly port and polishing the blower???? if thats the case I heard that on the Redlineforums. that people that had their blowers port and polish saw minimum gains from it.

also This is old news but for anyone that haven't read this

Next Generation Eaton Supercharger Provides Bigger Boost in Smaller Package
SOUTHFIELD, Mich.--Diversified industrial manufacturer Eaton Corporation today unveiled its newest generation of Roots-type supercharger design that will allow automakers to use smaller, more efficient compressors to create more engine boost. The company unveiled the new design, called Twin Vortices Series (TVS™) at the Specialty Equipment Manufacturers Association (SEMA) tradeshow in Las Vegas.

“We think the TVS™ is a game changer that will allow our customers to make more horsepower without the traditional engineering tradeoffs,” said Jeff Romig, vice president and general manager of Eaton’s supercharger business. “The TVS design has remarkably improved efficiencies and broadens the performance range of the supercharger across an engine’s entire performance range.”

The new patented TVS™ design features four-lobe rotors and high-flow inlet and outlet ports that greatly enhance thermal efficiency, enabling greater volumetric capacity at higher revolutions per minute (RPM). Previous Eaton Roots-type designs featured only three-lobe rotor assemblies. The new TVS™ supercharger design is scalable and adaptable to virtually all engine designs.

The TVS™ supercharger design builds on Eaton’s market leadership position of designing and manufacturing Roots-type superchargers for premiere automotive brands.

The first original equipment application of an Eaton supercharger debuted on the 1989 Ford Thunderbird Super Coupe. Since, Eaton superchargers have appeared on the Buick Park Avenue UltraTM, Buick RegalTM, Pontiac Grand PrixTM, Ford Mustang Cobra SVTTM and the Ford Lightening SVTTM. The current generation of Eaton supercharger is available on the MINI Cooper STM, Jaguar XKRTM, Range Rover SportTM, Cadillac STS-VTM, Cadillac XLR-VTM, Chevrolet Cobalt SSTM, Saturn Ion RedlineTM and the Mustang Shelby GT500TM.

Eaton has development programs underway with several automakers to incorporate the TVS™ into future vehicle programs and it is working with its aftermarket partners to make the TVS™ technology available to performance enthusiast in 2007.

Eaton Corporation is a diversified industrial manufacturer with 2005 sales of $11.1 billion. Eaton is a global leader in electrical systems and components for power quality, distribution and control; fluid power systems and services for industrial, mobile and aircraft equipment; intelligent truck drivetrain systems for safety and fuel economy; and automotive engine air management systems, powertrain solutions and specialty controls for performance, fuel economy and safety. Eaton has 60,000 employees and sells products to customers in more than 125 countries. For more information, visit www.eaton.com




http://www.eatonperformance.com/superchargers/TVS.html

 

what that old dude was saying about "pressure" and "velocity"....

... yeah it's called Bernoulli's Principle.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth...

 

Well I wouldn't go so far as to say that. My friend Josh had Stiegemeier port and polish his M112 on his Lightning and it produced over 40rwhp gains with out any other modifications or tuning (same MD inertia dyno used for all it's other modifications). We also stuck it on a flow-bench before installation and airflow improved over 50%. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was around 900cfm stock and and around 1400-1500cfm afterwards.

 

So i wonder why we saw such a small gain on our motors with a P&P job on our superchargers. even though i think i know.

 

It moves enough air that it starts to compress in the manifold, but by design it is not inended to compress air. That is why their VE is significantly drops off as boost rises. Air bleeds back through the rotors just like it would a fan with a box sealed around. It would create positive pressure but not because it was designed to.