what all would i need to make my 06 ss s/c e85 and what kinda gains would i see if any.

 

check the redline forums under the performance section

ebristol did a nice write up

 

Depending on what pulley you run, you're going to need bigger injectors. Most common is running 80's with e85, but I've seen it done on 60's. I can't recall what pulley they were on though.

 

80# injectors, e85, tune

^ that is what is NEEDED, although some nice plugs, and a 2.7 pulley would almost be perfect.

I think those were on a 2.9" the guy in AZ right?

 

i plan on running zzp stage 3 s/c kit with 2.7 dual pass and option b for cooling mods and probably meth

 

There's a guy here on OH, who I met at the track who is running 60's and a 2.8, I think...on e85. I know its 60's, pulley I'm lost on.

 

your just wasting money on meth, only would cool, performance gains are minimal.

 

so if i run e85 dont get meth?

 

correct.
if you bring it to the track alot, meth is excellent, but if you go once in a blue moon and mostly mess around on the roads I don't recommend it, to save you from spending extra cash.

 

if you're gonna run 60's, it's probably safer to run a return style fuel system as well. Not sure if it's needed on the 80's, but it would help. Obviously need a tune.

 

would i be better to get 80s with the stage 3 kit?

 

of course!

 

if you go 80s you will have more to play around with if you change your setup in the future. i would go 80s and the price isnt that much different.

 

I'm going with E85 this week. I'm going to run 80s and the 2.8 thats on the car. I was going to run a 2.7, but I ordered the wrong damn pulley, so screw it. You don't need a whole lot of cooling mods with E85.

 

I wish they would bring ethanol to Canada, I'd be running it right now.

Joel

 

im interested in e85 also i plan on doin the 80s 2.7 with tune

 

Yes as stated 80's and a tune are all you need. I would go with a 2.6, 2.7, or 2.8" pulley depending on your driving habits and what your goals are.

 

So you need 80's and return style fuel system? and well a tune too. Thats it?

 

I don't think the return is needed.

 

No return style is needed with 80's on the M62. Most have been able to get down to a 2.9 on the TVS with 80's on the stock system, myself included.

 

Cool thanks for the info!

 

One thing that should be mentioned is that E85 does not lower your iat2's. People are making statements such as "you do not need cooling mods" when in fact that is not the case. Yes e85 burns cooler and yes cyl temps will be cooler, but this has nothing to do with iat2's which lead to power increases and decreases. The way our cars are setup, as some of you know, they pull timing if the car is above X iat2 degree. No matter what type of fuel you are using you are not lowering the iat2's and that is something that still needs to be done with these cars. The less timing you are running, the less power you are making. Even if your tune is setup to run 20 degrees, that doesn't mean it won't pull 5 degrees once you make your 2nd pull and your iat2's are above 140-150 degrees.

E85 is great and I am for it, however you still need to watch your iat2's and cool the intake charge down.

 

Correct it does not cool IATs, but it does cool down cyl temps dramatically as you stated. I have my tune setup to not start pulling timing until 160* IAT2s since you can get away with a little more heat on E85 due to the cyl temps being so much cooler.

 

Well said. This has been m biggest concern (is my car still going to pull timing on E85) and haven't really found any answers on it. Thanks for posting that.

 

I'm going to be purchasing the stage 3 kit from zzp on jan 14th with the 2.7 80's and the e85 tune. Then i'm going to get a dyno tune here.