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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:57 AM
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e85 specialists please chime in

I wanted to know what the benefits are of running straight e85 as opposed to a 50/50 mix. I'm currently on a 50/50 mix and was wondering which way is better. I just bought some 80# injectors and a 2.6 that will be going on the car soon. Any and all info will e greatly appreciated.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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Running E85, if bought from the same pump/station each time, it'll be more consistent in the % of ethanol. Hell, it's just easier to go to the full E85 lol. I'm at work, so quick response only. I'll get all techy later
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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just do straight e85 bro. Kendell will hook you up with a nice tune for it.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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I wouldn't say i'm at E85 Specialist, but i've been around it for a little while now.

Advantages:
- Cooler Engine Temps (10-15*)
- Cleaner Burning
- Higher Octane Rating
- More Timing
- Cheaper by the Gallon

Disadvantages
- Burns Faster (less gas mileage)
- Doesn't Like Cold Starts Too Well
- Not as Conveniant for Long Trips

With a full blend of E85 you'll gain more power for sure mainly due to it being a higher octane rating and the cooling factor you'll be aloud to add more timing to your tune because the higher octane rating will be more stable causing less KR (knock retard). if you can keep ur KR down you can continue to add timing although anything past 26* of timing hasn't seemed to prove efficient. Also I wouldn't reccommend a 2.6" pulley especially if you have a led foot. 2.8 is the lowest pulley you can run on the m62 and stay efficient. the 2.6 will make more hp and torque at lower rpms, but after you hit peak ur power will actually start to fall off from overspinning the SC.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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What nick said but also cooler combustion temps which means it keeps the pistons a lot cooler then gasoline. Also it cleans and keeps the internals clean.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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What nick said but also cooler combustion temps which means it keeps the pistons a lot cooler then gasoline. Also it cleans and keeps the internals clean.
had to leave somethin for you lol
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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here shortly after winter chevycobaltss3 and i are going to do a lot of experimenting on my car with a 2.6" pulley and a 2.8" pulley with both tuning and a dyno to show curves, hp and tq numbers etc.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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What about a TVS? What would be the smallest pulley to run with E85? Let's say you have the proper cooling mods (spacer, dual pass, headers + downpipe, cold air)
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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^ the issue with this is the.correct fueling...... You'll need.to at least upgrade to a referenced fuel system, and a larger flowing fuel pump.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
^ the issue with this is the.correct fueling...... You'll need.to at least upgrade to a referenced fuel system, and a larger flowing fuel pump.
So let's say I stick with the stock pump and I have #80 injectors, can I run E safely or I should really invest in the pressure system and pump? First one is 200$ at ZZP, pump not sure yet.

If for 200$ it makes a big difference and it's a lot safer, I won't cheap out lol
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Yes you'll need the fuel system and pump... People run 1000 cc injectors as well but this is just covering up the issue..
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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you can run down to a 2.8 on the tvs on 80lb inj no problem kendal is one of the best tuners on here good clean consistant tunes and he will push it as hard as you want
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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yeah, he tuned my turbo lsj, and I'm very happy with it so far. I feel totally comfortable with him tuning it to 25 psi.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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he could tune it higher
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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he could, but that's when my sphincter starts to tighten and i back down.....he's crazier than this messican
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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You all notice he is asking about 80s and e85 right. **** I can tune a gas tune with 80s and a tvs with a 2.6 and not max them out lol...
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Kendall is my tuner. I've been happy with his tuning. I just wanted to know what the difference is in running straight e85 as opposed to the 50/50 blend I'm running now.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
You all notice he is asking about 80s and e85 right. **** I can tune a gas tune with 80s and a tvs with a 2.6 and not max them out lol...
i would hope not you should have plenty to go all the way down to a 2.5 on gas and yes i read that but 80s and E on a tvs 2.8 dosent max out the inj if you tune it correctly but its close
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Actually yes it does max idcs out.. 80s are to small if he doesn't have a referenced fuel system. The pump can handle it a Lil. Bow you can run high 12afrs all day and be real close to maxxing the idcs out but its unsafe even with ethanol. In order for someone to correctly run e85 and a lower pulley they need the reference ed fuel system at least. If not its basically just putting a band aid over somthing.

maxxing injectors 85%-100% and this is where they go static.

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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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well he is running a 11.8 afr on E tvs 2.8 idc is is the 80s plenty safe
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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80s are safe I'm just saying...
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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I felt fuel cut out on my 80s when I jumped o my 2.6 ended up with id1000s and the aeromtive 340 pump and haven't had the problem since. E is definitely nice op.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Actually yes it does max idcs out.. 80s are to small if he doesn't have a referenced fuel system. The pump can handle it a Lil. Bow you can run high 12afrs all day and be real close to maxxing the idcs out but its unsafe even with ethanol. In order for someone to correctly run e85 and a lower pulley they need the reference ed fuel system at least. If not its basically just putting a band aid over somthing.

maxxing injectors 85%-100% and this is where they go static.
You have my trust for the parts and for tuning my car next summer!
I wanted you to tune my cobalt last summer (we talked a bit) but my temps were too high at the time...I found out later that my IC pump wasn't working...
So anyways, a few more mods until I ask you for a tune
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:56 AM
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Where's all this tvs talk coming from? I'm not running a tvs. As much as I would love to be, I'm currently on the stock m62.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SatanzSS/SC
Where's all this tvs talk coming from? I'm not running a tvs. As much as I would love to be, I'm currently on the stock m62.
get one pimp you wont regret it
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