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Edubs 02-07-2008 04:24 PM

Eaton Superchargers Modification Guide
 
There are many different opinions and views regarding how to modify the M-Series, roots type, superchargers made by Eaton. In a recent discussion on another forum, a lot of information was uncovered, along with a solid contact within the Eaton Corporation itself. This thread will outline the findings and what is recommended by the manufacturer itself.

Both the M62 and M90 (most common on this site) are at their peak efficiency levels from the factory. Although running a smaller pulley is the easiest way to generate more power with these applications, it is also the easiest way to push the blower out of its efficiency range and produce gobs of heat. Heat, as you know, is the enemy of all F/I applications. Roots type superchargers, although extremely reliable, are the least efficient due to their drag on the engine by belt as well as their tendency to generate good amounts of heat in regards to the IAT (Intake Air Temperature). Eaton addressed some of these issues when they created their new line of TVS blowers; however, this thread is only concerned with the M-series blowers.

From Eaton.com:

"Eaton manufactures highly engineered, roots-type positive displacement superchargers. The Eaton supercharger increases torque across the entire operating range without compromising drivability or emissions. This allows vehicle manufacturers the option of using smaller, more economical 4- and 6-cylinder engines, without perceived loss in power train performance. Additionally, the supercharger incorporates a bypass system to reduce air handling losses when boost is not required, resulting in better fuel economy. Typical applications are on engines with displacements of 1.8L to 5.3L.

All aftermarket and service (rebuilds) are handled in the United States by Magnuson Products, (www.magnusonproducts.com) and in the Oceania-Asia-Pacific region by Harrop Engineering. (www.harrop.com)

The Eaton Supercharger - One Simple, Powerful Solution.

Eaton’s Air Management Systems Division designs, manufactures and markets modified Roots-type positive displacement pumps, also known as “superchargers,” for the original equipment and aftermarket industries."

When it comes to modification of these superchargers, the common areas of modification are:

Porting of the inlet portion of the housing
Porting of the internal housing
Porting of the outlet plate of the housing
Porting or Plugging of the "holes" on the outlet plate
Running a smaller pulley
Heat reduction, supporting modifications

The basic idea here is to increase CFM without raising IAT's. As most people on this site drive vehicles with the LSJ engine, M62 application, I will focus on that. These basic principles can be carried over to any other application using an M-Series blower. It should be noted, that the M-series superchargers are effectively air pumps. They do not internally compress the air themselves, but push it into the lower intake manifold. It is in the lower intake manifold that positive pressure emerges. Most folks think Eaton's roots-type units are actually squeezing the air like a screw unit. This is not the truth. No air passes between the rotors, the air is guided by the rotors along the sides of the housing; hence, no internal compression of air.

Porting the M-Series Supercharger:

It is not a good idea to remove too much material from any portion of the blower. Extreme porting of the blower will disrupt the air and will reduce efficiency greatly. A light porting of the inlet housing will help increase intake CFM of the pump. Typically, if a TB (throttle-body) upgrade is available, it helps to match the TB port size to the inlet port for a smooth intake of air with minimal disruption. Smoothing this opening up and enlarging it slightly will help introduce more air into the rotor housing which can then be "pushed" into the lower intake manifold. The inside of the housing can also be lightly ported to increase internal surface area. It is important to note, that internal porting of the rotor housing should be very minimal. Basically, remove any and all casting flashes and ensure complete symmetry while removing as little material as possible. Removing too much material will interfere with air flow and the functionality of the rotors. The output plate at the base of the M62 housing is what can be modified the most. This plate has one large triangular and two small oval passages in it. Right now, we'll focus on the large triangle. This is the passage that air is pushed through by the rotors to create a positive pressure in the lower intake manifold. This passage can be opened up slightly and smoothed out for best flow. Opening it up too much will also disrupt airflow. This is the most porting that should be performed on an Eaton M-Series blower to maintain efficiency.

Air Leakage Ports:

The two oval slots on the output plate are air leakage ports. Their only purpose is to decrease operational noise from the blower. Arnie, from Eaton Corp., explains their function like this, "When you stomp on the gas, the boost shoots up and the air flow goes supersonic. The air then slams back into the output plate and through the leakage slots, which reduces the hammering of the air into the housing causing less noise. The OEM can not have such loud NVH, that’s why we put them in the housing. The 2 small ports are not there to feed air, only to reduce noise." Basically, for the best flow and most efficiency, these ports can be blocked off, making the outlet port (triangle slot) the only port on the outlet plate of the housing. Closing these ports will not increase IAT's; however, it will make the supercharger much louder when in boost. As an example, aftermarket supercharger companies, such as Harrop, Roush and Magnuson do not use these slots in their blowers. It should be re-stated, that you should consult professionals regarding closing these ports; and do not, for any reason, plug them with JB Weld. Improper closure could eventually lead to pieces coming apart and loose debris destroying the rotors and housing. Opening up these ports will only have a negative effect on efficiency. Do not port them.


Originally Posted by TVS_SS (Post 1927856)
NOTE!!!

DO NOT WELD THE HOLES SHUT!!

while it is beneficial to have these holes closed, by welding you will distort the rotor bores and change the heat treat on the aluminum.

do not WELD on a finish machined housing anywhere near the rotor bores!!!!!

you will end up with rotor contact issues or large gaps.. these are precision machined bores.. it would be like welding on your cylinder bores.. NOT A GOOD IDEA!

Please take TVS_SS' comment into consideration while modifying your Eaton Supercharger. If you choose to close the leakage ports, do so knowing the risks and consult professionals like Magnuson, Harrop or Eaton before making final decisions.

Arnie, as mentioned earlier, is Eaton's Performance Products Training Instructor and has made himself and his team available for questions regarding their product and modifying it for best performance. Please visit http://www.eatonperformance.com and you will see an area "Ask the Experts." Any questions will be answered as best as possible as time permits (they receive 100's of questions a day).

Running a smaller pulley:

Reducing the size of the pulley increases both response time and maximum RPM of the supercharger. The stock pulley sets the M-62 blower at maximum efficiency and reducing pulley sizes does reduce efficiency. Porting the supercharger and using supporting heat-reduction modifications can help negate these negative effects of increasing boost by using the smaller pulley. While they do help reduce the negative effects of increased IAT's, these supporting modifications can only help so much. The increased IAT's produced by using any smaller than a 2.8" pulley will most likely not be able to be reversed by these supporting modifications. It is not recommended to run pulleys smaller than 2.8”; however, all cooling modifications with methanol injection may make it possible to see benefits from a 2.7” pulley. 2.5” and 2.6” pulleys bring the supercharger way past its maximum RPM range and will significantly reduce the life of the supercharger. Keep that in mind.

Heat Reduction, Supporting Modifications:

The increased IAT's created by running smaller supercharger pulleys can be prevented by using several available heat reduction modifications. These modifications are the dual-pass endplate for the lower intake manifold, secondary heat exchanger, and methanol/alcohol injection. At the very least, increased cooling by running the dual-pass endplate and a secondary heat exchanger should be used when running pulleys smaller than stock. These cooling modifications will help reduce higher IAT's that may cause detonation and possible serious outcomes like blown engines. It is important to use an AFR (Air/Fuel Ratio) gauge when modifying the supercharger to make sure you maintain proper AFR and do not go too rich/lean. It is also highly recommended that you get a dyno tune after any modification to the engine to optimize performance and ensure safety. Information on any of these modifications can be found in the performance section here. Search first, if you can't find your answer, make a thread.

Comments and suggestions are welcome regarding this information. There's a lot here, but I'm sure I missed something that is important.

FZWCobalt_09 02-07-2008 04:26 PM

Very Nice!!!

ptrblkz24 02-07-2008 04:28 PM

Good write up!!Remember when everyone swore that plugging the leakage ports was bad for the s/c and would raise the temps?Then they would port the shit out of them.Now we know they are just for noise reduction.

07 SS/SC 02-07-2008 04:50 PM

Very nice! Lots of good info there!

invisible 02-07-2008 04:54 PM

Wow, thats alot of good info there. Good find.

RaineMan 02-07-2008 04:57 PM

great info!

makes me think about going back to a 3" pulley.

XM15 02-07-2008 04:58 PM

Excellent job, Edubs! :thumb:

TVS_SS 02-07-2008 05:00 PM

NOTE!!!

DO NOT WELD THE HOLES SHUT!!

while it is beneficial to have these holes closed, by welding you will distort the rotor bores and change the heat treat on the aluminum.

do not WELD on a finish machined housing anywhere near the rotor bores!!!!!

you will end up with rotor contact issues or large gaps.. these are precision machined bores.. it would be like welding on your cylinder bores.. NOT A GOOD IDEA!

LopsidedJester 02-07-2008 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by TVS_SS (Post 1927856)
NOTE!!!

DO NOT WELD THE HOLES SHUT!!

while it is beneficial to have these holes closed, by welding you will distort the rotor bores and change the heat treat on the aluminum.

do not WELD on a finish machined housing anywhere near the rotor bores!!!!!

you will end up with rotor contact issues or large gaps.. these are precision machined bores.. it would be like welding on your cylinder bores.. NOT A GOOD IDEA!

Also good to know

jgarciarivera 02-07-2008 05:02 PM

very nice!

shiftingloco310 02-07-2008 05:11 PM

Everyone has there own opinion, buti personally feel that we should leave the blower alone. I mean the time attack car never ported or did anything with the blower except put a 2.9" pulley. I think they also put a thicker front mount heat exchanger with the dual pass option. but again that's my opinion to each their own.

phatnackySS 02-07-2008 05:11 PM

idk who it was that told me closeing the ports was a bad idea and would decress efficiency.....but to them i give you a big fat told ya so.lol

CHARGDSS 02-07-2008 05:13 PM

hmmm.....


good info.

phatnackySS 02-07-2008 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by shiftingloco310 (Post 1927884)
Everyone has there own opinion, buti personally feel that we should leave the blower alone. I mean the time attack car never ported or did anything with the blower except put a 2.9" pulley. I think they also put a thicker front mount heat exchanger with the dual pass option. but again that's my opinion to each their own.


they also ran nitrous ....so im sure they wernt worried about the 1-2 hp they could have gaind from porting..... and who knows , maybe they did port it and it just wasnt published ...

RaineMan 02-07-2008 05:17 PM

didn't the time attack car run a special production M-62 with different rotors in it?

invisible 02-07-2008 05:20 PM

When is that new tvs s/c gonna be out...sounds interesting

TVS_SS 02-07-2008 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by RaineMan (Post 1927901)
didn't the time attack car run a special production M-62 with different rotors in it?

Yes, it ran a Hybrid 62 (aka H62). It was an M62 with higher twist rotors and a better intake port. Only a few were ever made but performed quite a bit better than the M62 when it was at high speed and boost.

Still not comparable to TVS however..

rukkee 02-07-2008 07:13 PM

Great info , thanks for posting .

flathead0 02-07-2008 07:16 PM

subscribed

USMCFieldMP 02-07-2008 07:32 PM

Good info... I wish there was a way of closing those holes or ordering a body with them already closed. Good write up.

BlilBT 02-07-2008 07:37 PM

Nice Post:twothumbs I know of several that swore removing the ovals Help!;)

Beck 02-07-2008 07:53 PM

good info.

Edubs 02-08-2008 07:40 AM

Thanks for the comments everyone...

TVS, I added your information into the post for everyone's reference. I appreciate your feedback. That is very good information.

Omega_5 02-08-2008 09:27 AM

Good to see that this finally made it over to CSS...

stavros 02-08-2008 09:32 AM

subscribed for later when i start blower mods


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