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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Everytime it rains

Alright so I have had my aem intake on for about 2 years and this has never happened before but the last two times it has rained i get a check engine light and as soon as i hit 4rpms my car bucks and wont go any further. Obviously because my filter is getting wet but this has never happened before. Anyone experience this same situation???
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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i have the same problem every time it rains as well. ONLY if i really give it some gas tho, if i easy drive it and shift around 3k im fine. i have an aem as well. Im buying OTTP 3" shortly tho
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Well i mean it doesnt help that its raining a lot in the NE area but I mean I never had this problem. Its a PIA because the cel comes on and the next day i just unplug my battery for a little and its gone.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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you probably sucked up some water. thats the only problem with cai. a short ram would eliminate that problem.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Get rid of that dryflow trash. Get an oiled K&N and a hydroshield or you're going to have problems in the rain from here on.

When water gets on the crappy aem filter, it's a sponge. People can brag on the low maintainence filter all they want, but everyone I know that has ran that filter has had nothing but problems. Mine ruined my maf, and I couldn't drive if it was even damp.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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yes it has been raining like a bitch in the NE area, and its going to begin once again. I have the ZZP CAI, and have never had a loss of power issue
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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i used to have the same problem with my aem, its that dryflow filter.
i purchased a injen intake and have never had that problem again.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:36 PM
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I don't even drive the cobalt in the rain.

Edit - I don't know why I even posted that.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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never. i had an injen cai for the 2.2 that also ducts down in the fender and i can go to redline and nothing happens. nor did i have like a hydrocharger or w/e those things are.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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you probably sucked up some water. thats the only problem with cai. a short ram would eliminate that problem.
a short ram would also heatsoak the **** out of a LSJ

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Get rid of that dryflow trash. Get an oiled K&N and a hydroshield or you're going to have problems in the rain from here on.

When water gets on the crappy aem filter, it's a sponge. People can brag on the low maintainence filter all they want, but everyone I know that has ran that filter has had nothing but problems. Mine ruined my maf, and I couldn't drive if it was even damp.
Please explain how a dry element air filter "ruined your MAF". Thats not really possible.

K&N's foul MAF's all the time, usually due to being slightly overoiled.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
Please explain how a dry element air filter "ruined your MAF". Thats not really possible.

K&N's foul MAF's all the time, usually due to being slightly overoiled.
maybe he means it got fucked up by all the water on it, that happened to me a couple times. I solved that issue by spraying it with maf cleaner. i really hope he didnt replace his maf over a little bit of water issue.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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had that problem, put a hydroshield on it and its good as new
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Glad I read this, I've been debating on switching to a dryflow for a few days now cuz its time to change out my winter tires.... I always clean and reoil my injen at the same time while my tires are off.
I hate oiling it but Im going to stick with it, I'd rather spend a day without my car instead of my intake taking a drink
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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had the same problem i replaced my filter and cleaned my maf sensor
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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whatd you replace your filter with dryflow or oiled?
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bbbevans89
had the same problem i replaced my filter and cleaned my maf sensor

^^^^ listen to him. take out your maf sensor and clean it...
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
Please explain how a dry element air filter "ruined your MAF". Thats not really possible.

K&N's foul MAF's all the time, usually due to being slightly overoiled.
I had an AEM, first rainy drive I took the car bucked and stalled after about 30 minutes and I was immoblie. I limped the car home to find a water-logged MAF and a dryflow that was dripping wet.

I have had no issues since I replaced the MAF and switched to a proper oiled filter.

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maybe he means it got fucked up by all the water on it, that happened to me a couple times. I solved that issue by spraying it with maf cleaner. i really hope he didnt replace his maf over a little bit of water issue.
werd

it was beyond the point of sensor cleaner, I tried...

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by red06SC
I had an AEM, first rainy drive I took the car bucked and stalled after about 30 minutes and I was immoblie. I limped the car home to find a water-logged MAF and a dryflow that was dripping wet.

I have had no issues since I replaced the MAF and switched to a proper oiled filter.
So in other words, this issue has nothing to do with the AEM DryFlow filter itself, and everything to do with you having your intake located in a poor location that is suseptible to getting soaking wet when it rains.

Oiled filters aren't immune to getting wet either. If you splash water on a K&N, it will still suck it up. Difference is oiled filters can foul MAF sensors, while dry ones do not.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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sounds like to me that instead of driving it home normally he was trying to go mach 3.5 home where the supercharger was in boost trying to suck the filter dry.

when its raining ( like today ) i dont try and accelerate the car any bit more than i have to knowing what will happen if i do.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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I've had my Injen withOUT hydroshield for just over a year, and have had NO problems in the rain. Even going to redline numerous times.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
So in other words, this issue has nothing to do with the AEM DryFlow filter itself, and everything to do with you having your intake located in a poor location that is suseptible to getting soaking wet when it rains.

Oiled filters aren't immune to getting wet either. If you splash water on a K&N, it will still suck it up. Difference is oiled filters can foul MAF sensors, while dry ones do not.
No one should have MAF problems from a properly oiled K&N. In fact I took the junky dryflow filter off my AEM intake, and replaced it with a K&N.

To the people with the AEM intake and like the dryflow filter, purchase a hydroshield. I ran the dryflow filter w/ hydroshield for about 1 year, and had zero issues with it when it rained.

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Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
So in other words, this issue has nothing to do with the AEM DryFlow filter itself, and everything to do with you having your intake located in a poor location that is suseptible to getting soaking wet when it rains.

Oiled filters aren't immune to getting wet either. If you splash water on a K&N, it will still suck it up. Difference is oiled filters can foul MAF sensors, while dry ones do not.
The K&N will not absorb damp air.

The problem is NOT the fact that the K&N wont absorb water, but will repel moisture out of the air where the dryflow will soak it like a sponge. A properly oiled filter WILL NOT foul a MAF sensor.

Also, before you try to call me out in the LSJ forum, do some research or go back to LNF tech. The SC has a cai located in the bumper cover from the factory. Blame General Motors.

Bottom line is, the dryflow WILL absorb more water than an oiled, if you can't understand that, you need to stop posting on the subject.

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sounds like to me that instead of driving it home normally he was trying to go mach 3.5 home where the supercharger was in boost trying to suck the filter dry.

when its raining ( like today ) i dont try and accelerate the car any bit more than i have to knowing what will happen if i do.
If you're referring to me, the car wouldn't even climb over 2,000 without bucking and coughing. The throttle was going crazy from all the bogus flow readings, and only making the problem worse.

Thats when I pulled the headlight to find the dryflow dripping water. Whole filter was water logged. I had only driven home from work in the rain, about 10 miles, at 60mph. No boost.

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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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i hate driving my cobalt in the rain, fogged up headlights, sketchy braking, and usually the sound of a slipping belt works its way into my commute
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by red06SC
The K&N will not absorb damp air.
And how do you figure that?? If the air is humid (moisture), regardless of the type of filter media, it will pass through the filter.

The problem is NOT the fact that the K&N wont absorb water, but will repel moisture out of the air where the dryflow will soak it like a sponge. A properly oiled filter WILL NOT foul a MAF sensor.
And where is the proof of this?? If you soak a K&N filter in water, it will absorb moisture regardless.

Also, before you try to call me out in the LSJ forum, do some research or go back to LNF tech. The SC has a cai located in the bumper cover from the factory. Blame General Motors.
Blame GM for you installing an aftermarket CAI that is exposed to water when it rains?? Definitely not...

If you're referring to me, the car wouldn't even climb over 2,000 without bucking and coughing. The throttle was going crazy from all the bogus flow readings, and only making the problem worse.
Sounds like you need to stop driving through deep standing water.
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