I'm looking for some advice. I'm a self proclaimed noob to this site (and Cobalt SS Performance mods, in general). I've been driving my ss/sc for over a year now, and I'm ready to start with the mods. I've started with an Injen CAI. Next step, CA's Stage 4 OR GMPP header/XTC downpipe/GMPP catback? The "Pros" at my dealership gave me the bunny in the head lights look when I asked for their advice. Any help and/or suggestions would be appreciated. Pros and cons of both or one over the other? Thanks in advance.

 

ca stg4...the gm kits just arnt worth it!

 

Have a question about doing the stg4, though. Can the stock exhaust handle the extra flow that will be generated witht eh stg4? Wouldn't want to wind it up heading down the highway and blow something out due to over pressure.

 

Worth is only according to the person doing the modification. You really aren't the one to tell someone else what isn't worth doing.

Just being honest.

To the original poster, figure out what you want from your car and how much you're willing to invest into the car. Research in the results some people are getting from the change, talk to the owners and see if they like it and then make an educated guess as to what you want to do either way.

That wouldn't happen.

 

Of course they're going to give you that look. Just because they work at a dealership dosen't mean they know everything about the car and all its mods. Plus they know if something gets F-ed up on it you'll come to them to get it fixed and aftermarket products can be a pain in the ass to get around

 

every person around my area that has a gm kit confirms what i said...worthless...

if you compare your performance per dollar amount the gm kits are the most expansive and provide some small gains...

just being honest.

 

Yeah, they may not make as much power but have one BIG advantage!!!

THE WARRANTY THAT YOU STILL HAVE 2-3 YEARS LEFT ON!!!!!!

 

That's fine...you can ask 20 people how they feel about it...still doesn't mean that he won't like it.

If you're thinking about performance per dollar, you wouldn't own a supercharged car...or atleast a car with an M62.

 

i got all my stuff done for less then the GM stg2....

performance/dollar... GM kits are not worth it...yea, warrenty is nice...but all you have to do it make is stock again and take it back in...its not that hard

 

Trust me, GM techs aren't as dumb as you may think. When you fry a piston because you didn't do something properly, they aren't going to think it was from stock. 1 + 1 = 2, things add up. There is typically evidence of you doing something you shouldn't have done.

 

i dont see how people can be hung up on warrenty....

granted alot depends on the dealer however i haven't seen people have there warrentys revoked due to mods, **** i've had my car in 34 times! and shes still got a warrenty!

thats rite....34 times!

BEAT THAT!(****** GM, but i love the car)

 

Sorry but that doesn't sound like things are really working to your advantage...

 

I love my stage 2. And iv gotten a clutch and an axel changed under warrenty since I had it installed. So it has definately paid off for me. And to turn your car back to stock is going to take how many hours for every time you take it in. Plus all they have to do is look at the bolts on the pulley and see that is has been taken off.

 

let alone, u got ur warrenty extended...LOL

and yes, they are dumb as ****, and dont know what mods will do...trust me...so they wouldn't know the difference

 

Depends.

Try and pull that on my buddy Maven in Jersey...he's a master technician and the smartest automotive guy I've ever come in contact with. He also works at a GM dealership.

 

yea it does depend, i just thought i would see more people havening issues by now, but i haven't.

 

I've read quite a few threads where dealers give them hassles and people try and swindle them over but don't work.

 

dam....

i havent been on here in a while...turbo swaps and class take up WAYYYYYYY to much dam time.

its yet to be any big mechanical issue's....roll pins in the shift linkige a few times but other then that its a bunch of stupid little ****

 

It's not too much time...it just involves more thought into having a proper setup. I know cause I've done so. The problem is people are just intimidated to even think about switching.

 

Exactly....Little stupid stuff. Lets see what happens when you blow a piston with that mod list.

 

muwhwhaha....you must be new here

i'm normally the guy posting intelligent articles and info(granted i have my bitch fights with sneaky)

son if you think i'm doing this swap with out piston, head and valve work....your crazy!

i've been planing it for about the past 2 months, saving money and such(no credit card debit here)

talking to vendors and shops to get charge pipe work done, turbo, bov, wastegate, boost controller ect..

**** i spent a solid 24hrs mapping compressor wheels, factoring PR, engine VE and a list of other things that factored into my pick of turbo, AR's, wheel trims

now comes the time consuming part, the actual build!(figuring about 10-20hrs for everything)..the issue is my class and work schedule prevent me from being able to spend an extended amount of time working on it at once

 

Very interesting.

PM me so we can talk more about your project.

 

alrite, PM sent

 

Guess you been asking the wrong person because my warranty is no more.

 

sry to hear the SB....mines 'bout gone due to miles but thats it!!!!!!