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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Fidanze Flywheel

Anyone have one, whats their opinion of it (or any other flywheel for that matter). A recommender or not really worth the 400$+install?

How does the car feel after the install?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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im trying to learn pros and cons of having JUST the flywheel, and the neccesitys of installing a new clutch at the same time. Thats kind of my concern right now.
(^someone please elaborate^)

I've Heard that the "gains" are actually worth every penny of it tho
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Get it off ebay for cheaper. Most vendors sell it for cheaper then 400 also.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Yeah, this is 400$ canadian, sorry for the confusion.

But again, Anyone has one, or heard anything, just the flywheel and how it is or not worth it?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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ive got one 300 right now and i also hear u are looking for a pcm?

make it 400 shipped for both items brand new fidanza flywheel and brand new ECM

both items were never installed the flywheel not even out of the box

tell me where to send them
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Got your PM, and I sent one back
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Got one paired with a clutch masters stage 3. I have not come up with any concerns with my setup. The pedal responce is moderate and takes getting used to over the stock unit. I have read many of the posts here about problems with clutch masters but they have not applied to me. (knock on wood)

I have talked to many of the tuner shops here in calgary about my setup and the response was that the flywheel was a great choice and that clutch masters would be second choice over other manufacturers but still a great product.

I would phone around and get more feedback when making your decision to buy or not.

Hope this helps a bit

Cheers
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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I've seen it as low as $300 shipped on ebay - as for actual gains you won't see any gains by getting a flywheel, it lessens drivetrain loss so you can put more power to the wheels. If your motor is putting out lots of HP the notice becomes more i.e. if you go from 9 - 12% drivetrain loss (which I believe is about what the Cobalts loss is, but don't quote me) to 8 - 11% drivetrain loss you will put more HP to the wheels. The more HP you make, the more difference you will notice. A stock SS/SC would notice maybe a 2 - 3 HP increase at the wheels, whereas a highly modified SS/SC making 260 HP at the crank would get an increase of maybe 3 - 4 HP at the wheels.

If you are going to replace the flywheel, you might as well replace the clutch at the same time since you will have everything apart anyways. Not to mention, it is a good idea to replace the clutch when replacing the flywheel anyways. Usually, people replace the flywheel while replacing the clutch.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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I got confused a little, are you saying that with the flywheel I could have probs with the master slave? or the master slave should be the first upgrade, then the flywheel??

And I was looking at just getting the flywheel, is that recommended still with the stock clutch unit?

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I've seen it as low as $300 shipped on ebay - as for actual gains you won't see any gains by getting a flywheel, it lessens drivetrain loss so you can put more power to the wheels. If your motor is putting out lots of HP the notice becomes more i.e. if you go from 9 - 12% drivetrain loss (which I believe is about what the Cobalts loss is, but don't quote me) to 8 - 11% drivetrain loss you will put more HP to the wheels. The more HP you make, the more difference you will notice. A stock SS/SC would notice maybe a 2 - 3 HP increase at the wheels, whereas a highly modified SS/SC making 260 HP at the crank would get an increase of maybe 3 - 4 HP at the wheels.

If you are going to replace the flywheel, you might as well replace the clutch at the same time since you will have everything apart anyways. Not to mention, it is a good idea to replace the clutch when replacing the flywheel anyways. Usually, people replace the flywheel while replacing the clutch.
That was my next question, do you have to take appart the cluth to install the flywheel? If so that would be alot of work wouldnt it just for a simple flywheel? I personally think that the 5 WHp gain would be awesome if its not to hard to install. IMO

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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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if you can't speed shift (or at least shift quickly) beware of the light flywheel. you lose RPMs much quicker between shifts, but also gain them much quicker after engaging.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Just to clarify - you CAN install just the flywheel without swapping out the clutch - but to install the flywheel you have to drop the transmission anyway, so you might as well swap the clutch.

I was just simply stating that people usually don't change out the flywheel until they do a clutch change since the flywheel sits behind the clutch and when they change the clutch they go ahead and change the flywheel as well.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Yeah I hear you, I am cheking for a clutch right now for my bad boy. Now lets see how much all this is going to cost me when its all said and done :-(....

Should I wait till the clutch is gone then to get it all done, or just do it right now even though everything is working well.?? any opinions?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rnjmur
Just to clarify - you CAN install just the flywheel without swapping out the clutch - but to install the flywheel you have to drop the transmission anyway, so you might as well swap the clutch.

I was just simply stating that people usually don't change out the flywheel until they do a clutch change since the flywheel sits behind the clutch and when they change the clutch they go ahead and change the flywheel as well.
ok everybody says this, and sorry if its a noob question but WHY is it a good idea to swap the clutch when only doing a flywheel???
just trying to learn...
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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^^^ what he said
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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When i had the fidanza on my car, the thing reved so fast it was insane, the rpms jump up quick.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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So did it rev so fast that is was no good, or did you find that a good thing?? And did u feel the throttle reponse faster when driving? And did you think the flywheel made your car faster?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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The main reason it is a good idea to swap out the clutch when doing the flywheel is that you already have the transmission dropped - it only takes one extra step to swap out the clutch while you have everything apart. If you are upgrading the flywheel I'm sure you are doing other upgrades as well so why not upgrade to a stage 2 or 3 clutch while you are there so you don't have to drop the transmission again later to do it. We all know that the stock clutches in the SS/SC aren't the best.

Also its the same reason you always change out your brake pads when changing rotors - you don't want anything on the old clutch to wear the new flywheel funny or you may cause the clutch to wear quicker then it should.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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yeah makes sense dude, makes sense ^^^^ Might just get a hptune and call it a day
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