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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Flow calculation for some LSJ parts.

Hi ! Here are my flow calculation for some LSJ engine parts :

ADDED COMMENT : These flow numbers are calculated at ambiant air temperature AND pressure.

Stock Throttle Body (67 mm) : 625 CFM.
EDITED : Stock Head : One intake port : 250 CFM @ stock 0,395" valve lift. One exhaust port : 145 CFM @ stock 0,395" valve lift. Stock head is said by GM to be efficient up to 275 WHP; it is clearly possible to make more WHP than that, but in a unefficient way (several HP losses caused by heat and restriction).
Stock Exhaust manifold ("Header") : 425 CFM.
Stock Downipe (DP) with cat : Plus or minus 370 CFM or less.
Stock Cat-back Exhaust (2,5" inlet to 2,25" outlet with stock muffler) : 300 CFM.

Now here are some replacement parts :

GMPP Exhaust manifold ("Header") : (30 more CFM than stock) : 455 CFM.
Shorty or long tube Header with 1,75" primaries and 2,5" outlet : at least 500 CFM.
Shorty or long tube Header with 1,75" primaries and 3" outlet : at least 725 CFM.
Shorty header with 1,5" primaries and 2" outlet : Waay not enough, who cares LOL.

Stock DP w/o cat : 425 CFM.
2,5" DP with VERY HIGH FLOW cat : plus or minus 450 CFM.
2,5" DP w/o cat : 500 CFM.
2,75" DP with VERY HIGH FLOW cat : plus or minus 475 CFM.
2,75" DP w/o cat : 600 CFM.
3" DP with VERY HIGH FLOW cat : plus or minus 500 CFM.
3" DP w/o cat : 725 CFM.

Stock catback with only the rear muffler replaced (the last portion is still in 2,25" tubing) : 350 CFM.
Stock catback with last portion replaced for 2,5" tubing and straight through muffler : 450 CFM.
2,5" catback : From 450 to 500 CFM (must be a straight through muffler).
2,75" catback : From 550 to 600 CFM (must be a straight through muffler).
3" catback : From 650 to 725 CFM (must be a straight through muffler).

Hope this can help ...

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Last edited by Jmc007; Sep 4, 2007 at 10:23 PM. Reason: EDITED Stock Head Info and added comment.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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you kick ass.

that is all
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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wow thats awesome thanks

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Great info!!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Very nice...
Now lets account for some BOOST!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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WOW! Nice info! How did you get all that?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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WOW! Nice info! How did you get all that?
I'm going to assume that he used basic flow dynamic calculations....
Pretty time consuming if your doing it by hand....
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whats the stock intake manifold flow?

just out of curiousity
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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The stock intake manifold flow is more limited by the air filter itself, but i dunno what's that flow ...
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmc007
The stock intake manifold flow is more limited by the air filter itself, but i dunno what's that flow ...
hmmm, good point. i'll dig something up
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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good info indeed
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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good job man
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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If you were to factor out the air filter, and even an intake....what would be the upper limit of air flow thro the intake manifold? I assume as this point the lamnova(sp?) cores themselves become the restriction....

shoot me a number or at least an educated guess....

and yea....wicked awesome post!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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+1 for this one.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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k&n number ru-4990

for those of us who have a k&n intake system

some quick specs.
Base Outside Diameter: 6 in (152 mm)
Flange Inside Diameter: 3 in (76 mm)
Flange Length: 1.875 in (48 mm)
Flange Type: Centered
Height: 5.563 in (141 mm)
Top Outside Diameter: 5 in (127 mm)


i'll give k&n a call tomorrow see if i can't dig up some cfm info on these little guys
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Great Job
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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EVERY part of my exhaust system flows 725 CFM
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
EVERY part of my exhaust system flows 725 CFM
what header?
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
k&n number ru-4990

for those of us who have a k&n intake system

some quick specs.
Base Outside Diameter: 6 in (152 mm)
Flange Inside Diameter: 3 in (76 mm)
Flange Length: 1.875 in (48 mm)
Flange Type: Centered
Height: 5.563 in (141 mm)
Top Outside Diameter: 5 in (127 mm)


i'll give k&n a call tomorrow see if i can't dig up some cfm info on these little guys
I'm pretty damn sure that this K&N filter flows way more itself than the stock airbox. But i was talking more about the stock air filter cfm, which is so dense and packed.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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great job , good info man
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmc007
I'm pretty damn sure that this K&N filter flows way more itself than the stock airbox. But i was talking more about the stock air filter cfm, which is so dense and packed.
ahhhhhhhhh, now i see
kudo's good sir!
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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jmc007, just noticed one thing, how does the stock manifold (1.75" D shaped outlet, flow equal to the 2" catless downpipe?

https://www.zzperformance.com/products_img/543_3.jpg

Just wondering...............
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Awsome in fo man. Nice find.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RoelSS
jmc007, just noticed one thing, how does the stock manifold (1.75" D shaped outlet, flow equal to the 2" catless downpipe?

https://www.zzperformance.com/products_img/543_3.jpg

Just wondering...............
If you look at the caliper on the picture, it doesn't seem to touch on both sides. Also, the manifold collector isn't long, so it's less rectrictive than a long downpipe of the "same" diameter.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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This info really needs to be sticky'd.

There are lot of misconceptions about the LSJ exhaust that could be cleared up with this thread.
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