getting to 12's
Senior Member
Joined: 09-26-06
Posts: 9,753
Likes: 0
From: Marlton, NJ
Actually, it's not too bad at all, especially if you have a lift. I paid a local speed shop like 50 bucks to put on a Cobra HE that they needed to custom make all the lines and mounting brackets.
Senior Member
Joined: 09-26-06
Posts: 9,753
Likes: 0
From: Marlton, NJ
Not sure if I would say all that. Each has their own pluses. The Cobra HE can be picked up for cheap which is why alot of people like em, the CA HE is a good deal because it comes with everything that you need and is brand new. The Dual Pass is more for making sure that you have an even dispersal of coolant sent to all four cylinders instead of your coolant starting at one end and by the time it hits cylinder 4 the coolant is warm. The Dual Pass makes it so that cylinder 4 gets cooler coolant sent to it.
Senior Member
Joined: 01-05-06
Posts: 10,877
Likes: 2
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Senior Member
Joined: 04-02-06
Posts: 3,507
Likes: 0
From: Harker Heights, TX
I gotta agree that traction should be the single most important target for people looking to drop their 1/4 time. Ever notice that all the runs in the 12's have sub 2.xxx 60' times? Hell, if your running a 14.3 with a 2.5xx 60' time, a bunch of traction mods and practice launching that gets your 60' time to around 1.8xx will net you a mid 13 1/4 mile.
Just something to think about, but that is going to be the focus of my buildup.
Just something to think about, but that is going to be the focus of my buildup.
Joined: 09-29-06
Posts: 20,662
Likes: 216
From: Land of Freedom
im hitting 107 trap speed right now in my car, but my times are 14.2 at best. LOTS of wheel spin, it was also my first time at the track and it was cold. I think theres much room for improvement
Senior Member
Joined: 01-13-05
Posts: 3,150
Likes: 0
From: Philly burbs
i run that time you got at trap speed of 100mph right now
you need some practice buddy!
good luck
Senior Member
Joined: 07-14-06
Posts: 824
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas
Statements like that is why I really do not post here anymore. Encourage the guy, no need to put him down.
Senior Member
Joined: 09-26-06
Posts: 9,753
Likes: 0
From: Marlton, NJ
SScobaltZ06...You're comparing a 1970's Muscle car that was made of steel, to a 2005-2007 vehicle that is more then half the weight. Losing weight is not a major concern with these vehicles, it's traction. The Cobalt weighs around 2900lbs for cryin out loud. lol...
Look at our trap speeds. High traps, low quarter times, that's because of traction issues not being too heavy.
Look at our trap speeds. High traps, low quarter times, that's because of traction issues not being too heavy.
Senior Member
Joined: 01-13-05
Posts: 3,150
Likes: 0
From: Philly burbs
Senior Member
Joined: 04-02-06
Posts: 3,507
Likes: 0
From: Harker Heights, TX
Yeppers. Take a stock SS/SC, put on solid mounts, torque tamper, strut bars, sway bars, upgraded axles, 16" rims up front with slicks/drag radials. I'm sure there are a few other traction/handling mods I missed. Most here would be surprised at the times that thing would pull.
Senior Member
Joined: 01-13-05
Posts: 3,150
Likes: 0
From: Philly burbs
Yeppers. Take a stock SS/SC, put on solid mounts, torque tamper, strut bars, sway bars, upgraded axles, 16" rims up front with slicks/drag radials. I'm sure there are a few other traction/handling mods I missed. Most here would be surprised at the times that thing would pull.
Senior Member
Joined: 10-20-05
Posts: 2,807
Likes: 0
From: Delray Beach, FL
so even with all my mods and a 2.7" pulley+meth or a 50 shot i cant hit 12's? 
Also a friend of mine with mods including:
2.7" pulley
42lb injectors
Cobalt Addiction's flashed pcm
Catback
He ran a 13.4@106.7 with a 2.2 60'
So your telling me with meth or a 50 shot that will not net a 12 seond pass??
Also a friend of mine with mods including:
2.7" pulley
42lb injectors
Cobalt Addiction's flashed pcm
Catback
He ran a 13.4@106.7 with a 2.2 60'
So your telling me with meth or a 50 shot that will not net a 12 seond pass??
Last edited by yellowcobaltss05; May 25, 2007 at 02:23 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Senior Member
Joined: 12-12-04
Posts: 1,720
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburgh,PA:Columbiana,OH
so even with all my mods and a 2.7" pulley+meth or a 50 shot i cant hit 12's?
Also a friend of mine with mods including:
2.7" pulley
42lb injectors
Cobalt Addiction's flashed pcm
Catback
He ran a 13.4@106.7 with a 2.2 60'
So your telling me with meth or a 50 shot that will not net a 12 seond pass??
Also a friend of mine with mods including:
2.7" pulley
42lb injectors
Cobalt Addiction's flashed pcm
Catback
He ran a 13.4@106.7 with a 2.2 60'
So your telling me with meth or a 50 shot that will not net a 12 seond pass??
Senior Member
Joined: 10-20-05
Posts: 2,807
Likes: 0
From: Delray Beach, FL
Member
Joined: 01-31-07
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
From: Windsor
Senior Member
Joined: 04-17-06
Posts: 814
Likes: 0
From: Bay City, michigan
12's are very doable in these cars. our cobalts make more hp stock than most the 70's muscle cars did, and our suspensions are alot better, technology has come along way!! i should hit 12's in mine on nitrous with the new pistons 
Senior Member
Joined: 02-27-07
Posts: 984
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Tx
FYI: my 70s musclecar was 3450 stock weight (and now 2950) and NOT twice that of a Cobalt at 5800 lbs..LOL
You guys wanna hit a 12 in your Cobalts you will need 330 crank hp mimimum. I dont care if you run a 1.8 60 footer you still aint gonna see a 12 with a stage 2 even with slicks and EVEN with a 50 shot on it, your still gonna need 330hp min with a 3150 lb race weight of the car and driver for a Cobalt and most guys/cars even more than that around 3200 with their fat azzes in it. I know a couple stage 3 guys around here running 50 shots of nitrous with 1.85 60's and they still arent in the 12's even with a 107-108 traps at sea level on a 60 degree day.
Let me know when you do hit a 12 though and lets see what the factors all are including weight and final hp....it will not be with a stage 2 period thats for sure even with a 50 shot. Your gonna have to lose some weight vs trying to make it on available hp achievable on the 2.0.
You guys wanna hit a 12 in your Cobalts you will need 330 crank hp mimimum. I dont care if you run a 1.8 60 footer you still aint gonna see a 12 with a stage 2 even with slicks and EVEN with a 50 shot on it, your still gonna need 330hp min with a 3150 lb race weight of the car and driver for a Cobalt and most guys/cars even more than that around 3200 with their fat azzes in it. I know a couple stage 3 guys around here running 50 shots of nitrous with 1.85 60's and they still arent in the 12's even with a 107-108 traps at sea level on a 60 degree day.
Let me know when you do hit a 12 though and lets see what the factors all are including weight and final hp....it will not be with a stage 2 period thats for sure even with a 50 shot. Your gonna have to lose some weight vs trying to make it on available hp achievable on the 2.0.
Although I do agree with you that shedding weight is just as important as traction in the end. It's better to start with the traction mods though.
