Ok it's been a while since i posted thing so, SEMA is coming soon and I wanted to see if anyone has heard of any facts or rumors of the GM upgrade packages? Prices, what they include, etc.

 

I think this was covered in an older post, not sure when

 

there are so many damn rumors going on about the upgrade packages.

I can tell ya the pricing I heard

stage 1 900
stage 2 1000
stage 3 2300

Now that very well might be in accurate but thats what I have heard. My sales person told me stage 1 is bigger fuel injectors and something else.

Ive heard alot of people talk about an ECU remap to allow your REDLINE to be pushed up.

why the F would they do that? I highly doubt this will be a upgrade package covered under warranty, I guess we will just have to wait and see.

 

I think they will be lower than that.

I'm not paying $900 for a reflash and injectors.

 

"Stage 1 adds revised fuel injectors and new engine calibration to pick up another 20 hp; Stage 2 increases boost via a smaller supercharger pulley (along with another engine recalibration job) to amp up the torque by about 20 lb-ft. The packages can be readily installed by the owner. Pricing will be announced in November at the Specialty Equipment Market Association show in Las Vegas."

Quote from front page

Also saw somewhere
Stage 1 is $500
Stage 2 is $600

 

Those prices sound much more reasonable.

 

Those are certainly more reasonable. But I can't imagine there only being a $100 difference between Stage 1 and Stage 2.
I see it more as this:
Stage 1: $400
Stage 2: $700

 

I would love to do the stage kits, but I badly need an LSD. I don't see how they could charge that much for stage 2 unless it keeps the factory warranty intact. It's a damn pulley and an ECU flash!!! I could probably go to a machine shop and have a pulley made out of billit for under $100. The engine programing is the critical part. I don't think that it will up the rev limiter unless GM sandbagged the original redline. That has to do with engine balance and valvetrain strength...although it would be nice. The limiter comes too fast in first as it is I almost dread seeing how fast it arrives with more power.

 

^^ course it keeps the factory warrenty dude its from GM

 

Well we don'tknow what KIND of injectors or size that they intend to put on the Cobalt SS so $900 can be very reasiable. What they're going to try and avoid is having to replace things that they've already replaced in earlier stages. Therefore, if they're going to make a stage 3 or 4 that will push past 300+HP we are going to need a lot better injectors in stage 1. And those run about $150-200 a piece. Anyone else follow me?

 

I think its more like a set for $200 not for each, that would be insane.

 

Why do people do this ?
THERE IS NO PRICING YET. Aything that anybody posts here is purely speculation. GM has announced nothing. Nobody knows what they will consist of either. Wait till SEMA. Then we will know.

 

We don't want to wait

Gimme now.

 

How do you know that ? Just because GMPP is going to produce them doesnt mean your warranty is going to be unaffected. Look at MOPAR and the SRT4 guys.

 

I dont either but we have to.... I just hate seeing everyone get all revd up....
"Oh ya I read online stage one will be (insert price here), Im gonna buy 3." .... Then they come out and its "WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO (insert price here)"

 

Well your car will be the one behind mine

 

Oh hell no... Fine I'll pay the $900

 

Well I had already mentioned somewhere that while I was in Michigan a couple weekends ago I saw an Ion Red Line that had a manufacturors plate on it and a saw off exhaust tip. I pulled next to the guy and asked him if this was staged, what stage level, and what the hp rating was. He said that "this car has everything you guys have been waiting for." So I said what's the horse power rating? He said "can't tell ya." then the light turned red and he sped off......pretty fast considering it was raining.
Well since the stage kits are going to be unveiled at SEMA, when is SEMA. I know it's in November..........

Tom

 

eek, looks like i have to save up my money again.

 

cnat wait for them to release the info on it

 

i think your on the right track with the pricing cuz im willing to pay 3g's (CAN) for stage 3

 

What are you guys talking about? When did they say there was gonna be a stage 3?

 

They have press released stage 1 and 2 and they will be at sema. Rumored is that there will also be a stage 3 SS S/C at sema and GM will be releasing stage 3, earliest, april of 2006. We'll have to wait and see what actaully happens but Im saving up as we speak.

 

I think they will have to raise the rev limit, and if you look at the 2.4 it's limit is 7000rpm. The engine was MADE to be upgraded, GM is putting alot of engineering into the ecotec to ensure it can be entensively and easliy upgraded by the owner. I don't think some of you people realize just how well built and strong this engine is, remember it is all aluminum head and block, has a crank gridle with 6 bolt mains, the hydraulic rollers are good to 11000rpm! , the stock 2.2l pistons are good to the 300hp level, the 2.2l crank is good to the 550hp level, the main bolts are good for up too 600hp level........... It just goes on like that. These facts are from GM themselves, i don't think you have to worry about upping the rev limit to 7000, the valve train stock is good for up to 7500, and over that a simple spring swap is all that is needed.

 

Ok, so the motor can handle the revs but can the supercharger? And will the intercooler be able to cool all the extra air. Also the air will be hotter from the higher pressure of the pully. I live in Arizona where it gets a little warm in the summer. Heat in definatly an issue in my mind. I hope the super and the intercooler can handle the job. I would hate to have those changed.