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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Gm Stage 2 Installation

Does anyone on here know where I can find on GM's site that it says exactly how long it takes to do the install on the stage 2 kit? So i can go and show my dealer what GM themseleves say the installation should take so i dont get ripped off on labor charges.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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no one knows?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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There are a few people on here that work for GM dealers and you may want to keep this up til they see it so they can give you a heads up.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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i know for a FACT that they can look it up on their webside in the parts department. it says it on the same page they go to order the kit. when i went to inquire about stage 2 the parts guy pulled it right up and told me i wanna say 2-3 hours but i can't remember exactly. sorry i can't help more.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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i know for a FACT that they can look it up on their webside in the parts department. it says it on the same page they go to order the kit. when i went to inquire about stage 2 the parts guy pulled it right up and told me i wanna say 2-3 hours but i can't remember exactly. sorry i can't help more.
I agree but every time I go to order the touring gm exhaust they tell me they have no idea how long it will take. So I am no longer going to buy right from the dealer. I do not trust how they act. The sales manager is a really cool guy but I can't stand how the service guys handle things. I'll just install all the gm parts myself and I would like to see them try and prove any car problems are becuase of the mods I installed. I hope it works out for you, good luck.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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well im about to ask them if I install the stage 2 kit let them do the reflash will they still warrenty me? but this is what i did i didnt go to the dealer i bought the car i went to another dealer and asked them for the price and stuff so if I go back to that dealer and see if they will warrenty me with me doing the install but then if somting breaks go to the dealer i bought the car and then see its gm stage 2 they cant say noting
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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The dealer looked in their computer, and the labor was 1.5-2hr install from readings dealers have been taking longer, if you are doing the install yourself it would be wise to either buy or rent a pulley puller, it makes things alot easier, after your install dont drive the car really until you get a reflash, and stay out of boost .
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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I think 2-3 hours is a good ball park, but expect a little longer, i have seen a lot of people say the dealership had a hard time getting the pulley off, but the dealership shouldn't charge any extra hours cuz they are too dumb to get it off in a few minutes like they should be able to do it in.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Here's what our parts catalog shows. If they go by that then that would be a really good price. That's about how long it took me to install and I had no idea on what I was doin

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by blown06
The dealer looked in their computer, and the labor was 1.5-2hr install from readings dealers have been taking longer, if you are doing the install yourself it would be wise to either buy or rent a pulley puller, it makes things alot easier, after your install dont drive the car really until you get a reflash, and stay out of boost .
Well my cousin does own a gas station so he has a pulley puller and a spark plug gapper so I'm pretty much set if i did the install myself, but i heard you cant have warrenty without gm installing it and i dont want to get screwed over with the install price of $90.00 an hour FOR 5 HOURS!! They want to charge me 5 hours of labor for the stage 2 kit
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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i dont want to get screwed over with the install price of $90.00 an hour FOR 5 HOURS!! They want to charge me 5 hours of labor for the stage 2 kit
That's insane! Show the dealer that pic from fr33k. What are other dealers in the area charging for install? I don't have the Stage Kit, but I remember reading some people installing the kit themselves and then going straight to the dealer to get the reflash without any problems. I think it all depends on the dealer. Call a few different dealers in your area (if there are any) and ask them. Also ask them what they charge for Stg2 install.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Yes, take your time and shop around....I didn't and I got screwed....I paid $180 for stage 1, thats right...stage 1...it should of only took them like 30-40 minutes....that was when the stage kits first came out. I have swapped injectors and pulleys and so on...and I now know how long it takes....so please SHOP AROUND....
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Stage II Install Time

Carfagno sold me the kit for $570 but wants 5-8 hours to install it. They broke the time down into individual labor times: Flash ECU 1 hour, Install pulley 1 hour, and so on. I went to a Saturn dealer and the mechanic looked at it and within 20 seconds said no more than 2 hours. "Simple Job."

If I install it myself and have the dealer flash the ECU the dealer said they would warranty the parts but not the labor. Understandable.

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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well im about to go to the local dealer with the chart that fr33k gave me see what they say about that and if they wont charge me that 2 hours it says to install ill jsut do the install myself and paradox where did u get the kit for 570? ill like to buy it that cheap
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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The good thing about that pic I sent was that is an actual picture of our GM parts catalog here at my dealership I work at.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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The good thing about that pic I sent was that is an actual picture of our GM parts catalog here at my dealership I work at.
alright thanks alot i printed it out but would it work for a new york dealership? because i noticed thats a california parts catalog
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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ok my dealer told me he had no clue what reflash it was and what part# and if it would even take whats the real story.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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print that chart that fr33k put up and its good show them that which im gunna do
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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alright thanks alot i printed it out but would it work for a new york dealership? because i noticed thats a california parts catalog
I don't see why it wouldn't work for a NY stealership since it says right at the top "General Motors Parts U.S."

Good luck either way, and keep us updated.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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alright thanks alot i printed it out but would it work for a new york dealership? because i noticed thats a california parts catalog
? Where did you see California? I'm in Missouri
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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my local dealership said that if i installed it as long as it was don correctly the warranty would still be intact, but if i was done incorrectly they wouldn't warranty it.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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oo nvm im trying to make some money to get the kit
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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2 hours - Stage 2
1 hour - Touring exhaust
1 hour - header manifold
was quoted $298 for 4 hours

Dropped car off at 8am
Got car back at 4:30pm

charged $298 for 4 hours, because "it was their first time with Stage 2"

yes - they can look it up on their computers
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