2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

Gm Stage 2 Installation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-25-2006, 09:37 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Gm Stage 2 Installation

Does anyone on here know where I can find on GM's site that it says exactly how long it takes to do the install on the stage 2 kit? So i can go and show my dealer what GM themseleves say the installation should take so i dont get ripped off on labor charges.
Old 10-25-2006, 10:37 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
no one knows?
Old 10-25-2006, 10:41 PM
  #3  
New Member
 
OmaCobaltss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-15-06
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There are a few people on here that work for GM dealers and you may want to keep this up til they see it so they can give you a heads up.
Old 10-25-2006, 10:43 PM
  #4  
Banned
 
Boosted_SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-16-06
Location: STEELER COUNTRY
Posts: 911
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i know for a FACT that they can look it up on their webside in the parts department. it says it on the same page they go to order the kit. when i went to inquire about stage 2 the parts guy pulled it right up and told me i wanna say 2-3 hours but i can't remember exactly. sorry i can't help more.
Old 10-25-2006, 11:19 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
R&C_rallySS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-09-06
Location: PA
Posts: 7,451
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Boosted_SS
i know for a FACT that they can look it up on their webside in the parts department. it says it on the same page they go to order the kit. when i went to inquire about stage 2 the parts guy pulled it right up and told me i wanna say 2-3 hours but i can't remember exactly. sorry i can't help more.
I agree but every time I go to order the touring gm exhaust they tell me they have no idea how long it will take. So I am no longer going to buy right from the dealer. I do not trust how they act. The sales manager is a really cool guy but I can't stand how the service guys handle things. I'll just install all the gm parts myself and I would like to see them try and prove any car problems are becuase of the mods I installed. I hope it works out for you, good luck.
Old 10-26-2006, 08:17 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
well im about to ask them if I install the stage 2 kit let them do the reflash will they still warrenty me? but this is what i did i didnt go to the dealer i bought the car i went to another dealer and asked them for the price and stuff so if I go back to that dealer and see if they will warrenty me with me doing the install but then if somting breaks go to the dealer i bought the car and then see its gm stage 2 they cant say noting
Old 10-26-2006, 08:32 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
blown06's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-06-06
Location: Central IL
Posts: 1,214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The dealer looked in their computer, and the labor was 1.5-2hr install from readings dealers have been taking longer, if you are doing the install yourself it would be wise to either buy or rent a pulley puller, it makes things alot easier, after your install dont drive the car really until you get a reflash, and stay out of boost .
Old 10-26-2006, 08:34 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
forced_induction's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-22-06
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think 2-3 hours is a good ball park, but expect a little longer, i have seen a lot of people say the dealership had a hard time getting the pulley off, but the dealership shouldn't charge any extra hours cuz they are too dumb to get it off in a few minutes like they should be able to do it in.
Old 10-26-2006, 08:58 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
fr33k's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-05-05
Location: Missery, USA (showme state)
Posts: 920
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Here's what our parts catalog shows. If they go by that then that would be a really good price. That's about how long it took me to install and I had no idea on what I was doin

Old 10-26-2006, 09:38 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by blown06
The dealer looked in their computer, and the labor was 1.5-2hr install from readings dealers have been taking longer, if you are doing the install yourself it would be wise to either buy or rent a pulley puller, it makes things alot easier, after your install dont drive the car really until you get a reflash, and stay out of boost .
Well my cousin does own a gas station so he has a pulley puller and a spark plug gapper so I'm pretty much set if i did the install myself, but i heard you cant have warrenty without gm installing it and i dont want to get screwed over with the install price of $90.00 an hour FOR 5 HOURS!! They want to charge me 5 hours of labor for the stage 2 kit
Old 10-26-2006, 10:10 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
SS_Canuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-07-05
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
i dont want to get screwed over with the install price of $90.00 an hour FOR 5 HOURS!! They want to charge me 5 hours of labor for the stage 2 kit
That's insane! Show the dealer that pic from fr33k. What are other dealers in the area charging for install? I don't have the Stage Kit, but I remember reading some people installing the kit themselves and then going straight to the dealer to get the reflash without any problems. I think it all depends on the dealer. Call a few different dealers in your area (if there are any) and ask them. Also ask them what they charge for Stg2 install.
Old 10-26-2006, 10:49 AM
  #12  
New Member
 
Smokem10's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-10-06
Location: Lake Elsinore, CA
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, take your time and shop around....I didn't and I got screwed....I paid $180 for stage 1, thats right...stage 1...it should of only took them like 30-40 minutes....that was when the stage kits first came out. I have swapped injectors and pulleys and so on...and I now know how long it takes....so please SHOP AROUND....
Old 10-26-2006, 10:59 AM
  #13  
New Member
 
Paradox's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-13-06
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Stage II Install Time

Carfagno sold me the kit for $570 but wants 5-8 hours to install it. They broke the time down into individual labor times: Flash ECU 1 hour, Install pulley 1 hour, and so on. I went to a Saturn dealer and the mechanic looked at it and within 20 seconds said no more than 2 hours. "Simple Job."

If I install it myself and have the dealer flash the ECU the dealer said they would warranty the parts but not the labor. Understandable.

Old 10-26-2006, 11:49 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
well im about to go to the local dealer with the chart that fr33k gave me see what they say about that and if they wont charge me that 2 hours it says to install ill jsut do the install myself and paradox where did u get the kit for 570? ill like to buy it that cheap
Old 10-26-2006, 11:56 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
fr33k's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-05-05
Location: Missery, USA (showme state)
Posts: 920
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The good thing about that pic I sent was that is an actual picture of our GM parts catalog here at my dealership I work at.
Old 10-26-2006, 12:04 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by fr33k
The good thing about that pic I sent was that is an actual picture of our GM parts catalog here at my dealership I work at.
alright thanks alot i printed it out but would it work for a new york dealership? because i noticed thats a california parts catalog
Old 10-26-2006, 12:06 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
yellowshowbalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-26-06
Location: Louisville Kentucky
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
ok my dealer told me he had no clue what reflash it was and what part# and if it would even take whats the real story.
Old 10-26-2006, 12:06 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
print that chart that fr33k put up and its good show them that which im gunna do
Old 10-26-2006, 01:18 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
SS_Canuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-07-05
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
alright thanks alot i printed it out but would it work for a new york dealership? because i noticed thats a california parts catalog
I don't see why it wouldn't work for a NY stealership since it says right at the top "General Motors Parts U.S."

Good luck either way, and keep us updated.
Old 10-26-2006, 04:23 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
fr33k's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-05-05
Location: Missery, USA (showme state)
Posts: 920
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
alright thanks alot i printed it out but would it work for a new york dealership? because i noticed thats a california parts catalog
? Where did you see California? I'm in Missouri
Old 10-26-2006, 05:39 PM
  #21  
Banned
 
Boosted_SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-16-06
Location: STEELER COUNTRY
Posts: 911
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my local dealership said that if i installed it as long as it was don correctly the warranty would still be intact, but if i was done incorrectly they wouldn't warranty it.
Old 11-01-2006, 08:22 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Coblt ss super's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-06
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
oo nvm im trying to make some money to get the kit
Old 11-02-2006, 10:42 AM
  #23  
Member
 
portergraph's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-16-06
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 318
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2 hours - Stage 2
1 hour - Touring exhaust
1 hour - header manifold
was quoted $298 for 4 hours

Dropped car off at 8am
Got car back at 4:30pm

charged $298 for 4 hours, because "it was their first time with Stage 2"

yes - they can look it up on their computers
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dennis69
08-10 SS Turbocharged General Discussion
7
10-20-2015 07:39 AM
HEATON
Parts
12
10-16-2015 07:21 PM
justinchinn
General Cobalt
3
10-02-2015 12:18 PM
grampss
Complete Cars
0
09-27-2015 08:51 PM
DocSvensk
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
7
09-27-2015 02:24 PM



Quick Reply: Gm Stage 2 Installation



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:24 AM.