2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

gm stage 2 problem? help?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:31 PM
  #1  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
gm stage 2 problem? help?

ok so first question is what is the factory stage 2 boost suppose to be? second question will follow accordingly
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:34 PM
  #2  
3de3gre33dk3's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: 12-09-09
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by kyle1853
ok so first question is what is the factory stage 2 boost suppose to be? second question will follow accordingly
Stage 2 on the SS/SC is 15psi
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:46 PM
  #3  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
alright well mine is runing like 12 to 13.....compression good...bypass valve actuator is new and bypass valve is new also.......has anyone seen this.....p.s. i have had my car 3 years in same area ran the correct boost up till now
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:48 PM
  #4  
2FaSSt4U's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 03-04-08
Posts: 308
Likes: 0
From: West Des Moines, Iowa
What were you boosting stock
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:52 PM
  #5  
06G85's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 05-19-09
Posts: 4,010
Likes: 0
From: Severn, Maryland
Yes, stock is around 12-12.5. Stage 1 is the same psi, stage 2 should be around 15.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:54 PM
  #6  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
10-12
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 04:28 PM
  #7  
2FaSSt4U's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 03-04-08
Posts: 308
Likes: 0
From: West Des Moines, Iowa
Did they re-flash it and install the pulley lol
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 05:11 PM
  #8  
06G85's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 05-19-09
Posts: 4,010
Likes: 0
From: Severn, Maryland
They may not have installed the pulley. If they didn't install the tune it would run like ****. Stage 1 and 2 both have the same reflash
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 07:39 PM
  #9  
joshcsepegi's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-16-09
Posts: 742
Likes: 2
From: akrowdy (akron Ohio)
outside temp And belt slippage iddler pulley bad, did you change anything in ur exhaust?
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 07:53 PM
  #10  
ecot3c inside's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: 03-31-10
Posts: 4,212
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
oh god, not this again....... There really is no set "boost" corresponding to stage kits, It is different at different sea levels, climates, blah blah blah. boost is a measure of restriction. changes in any modification may lower your boost.. especially exhaust system.
12-13 is pretty damn close to the marked 15psi, I would say you are good.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:01 PM
  #11  
Berto09ss's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-23-09
Posts: 957
Likes: 0
From: Bakersfiled,CA
16psi
at least that's what my old would hit at WOT
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:06 PM
  #12  
ecot3c inside's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: 03-31-10
Posts: 4,212
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
I guess that means no one understands...

OP if its any consulation Im in chicago (next door) running a 3" pulley with a slight better tune and I am only hitting 14 psi.

Last edited by ecot3c inside; Jul 31, 2010 at 08:06 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:10 PM
  #13  
doober321's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 06-21-08
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA
I'm stage 2 hitting 16 psi on wot
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2010 | 02:49 PM
  #14  
395 plus's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-23-08
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 0
From: Plymouth, WI
Originally Posted by moranjames89
I guess that means no one understands...

OP if its any consulation Im in chicago (next door) running a 3" pulley with a slight better tune and I am only hitting 14 psi.
I do! I have a stage 2 but a 2.9 pulley and hit 14 psi at wot but with extrude honed header and 2.5" exhaust so I have a bit less restriction keeping my boost lower.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2010 | 08:11 PM
  #15  
Nighthawk243's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-20-07
Posts: 2,961
Likes: 1
From: Pittsburgh, Pistolvania
The 15psi number assumes you're otherwise stock. If you have an exhast or intake installed, then it will likely differ. Also, 15PSI goes back down to stock numbers near the redline as a protection feature.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2010 | 11:40 PM
  #16  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
well it always did 15 to 16 psi ...then it i had the 2.8 on and it did 18 to 20 ....then i wanted to take it in for some warranty work....leaky valve over so i switched back to the stage 2 pulley and it was running less boost.... so i switch back to 2.8 and it was only running 15 to 16 so i put it back to stage 2 again....found out there was some problems....like i had a bad bypass valve actuator so that was replaced and it boosted about 14 to 15 ...then it started going down in boost like 13 ...so i had a bad cat....took it in ....replaced now 14 to 15 again ..still a little low for what it use to be but i could deal with that...its humid out....now 12 psi!!..13 tops on a good night.......and tonight i dont know if its right or not but i have intake and catback...gmpp.....and i cobalt that was stock...catback and header and tune only was almost dead even with me....idk if thats normal or not...but i still dont know about the boost....and every now and then my car hesitates in second wot....but no light no knock..nothing!??? help?!?!?
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 12:59 AM
  #17  
Nighthawk243's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-20-07
Posts: 2,961
Likes: 1
From: Pittsburgh, Pistolvania
Here's a thought, open your H/E fluid cap and see if the fluid in there is actually moving. Could be possible your pump died and the IAT's are going up, causing the engine to back off.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 01:04 AM
  #18  
corey_osu10's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 11-23-09
Posts: 1,028
Likes: 0
From: Ironton Ohio
Originally Posted by Nighthawk243
Here's a thought, open your H/E fluid cap and see if the fluid in there is actually moving. Could be possible your pump died and the IAT's are going up, causing the engine to back off.
win. been there done that
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 03:22 AM
  #19  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Na, had that replaced, that went out and the car wouldn't even go above 120, ran like complete ****

Are you talking about the actual plug on the heat exchanger it the fill cap?

Last edited by kyle1853; Aug 2, 2010 at 03:22 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 07:39 AM
  #20  
Staged07SS's Avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: 12-30-07
Posts: 14,079
Likes: 197
From: NEPA
No one can tell you what the exact GM Stage 2 boost is supposed to be. GM claims 15 psi, but everyones boost levels will be different. Modifications, location, elevation, temp will all play a part on your boost levels.

Also, boost is a measure of restriction. Higher boost levels do not always mean you are making more power. Remember that !!
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:38 AM
  #21  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
well do you think a stage 0 with header exhaust and a street tune should run side by side with me and i have cat back and intake and gm stg 2?
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:43 AM
  #22  
Staged07SS's Avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: 12-30-07
Posts: 14,079
Likes: 197
From: NEPA
Originally Posted by kyle1853
well do you think a stage 0 with header exhaust and a street tune should run side by side with me and i have cat back and intake and gm stg 2?
If the car has a good tune then yes.

GM Stage 2's tune is very conservative. If you race a stock pullied/bolted car with a good tune there is a good chance he could hang with you.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:21 PM
  #23  
kyle1853's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 09-10-07
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
ok its official!....today now my stage 2 is only hitting 11 to 12 max psi....this is what i use to hit when i was stock??? something has to be wrong? any thoughts!!!! help me
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:26 PM
  #24  
ULWizSS's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 07-30-10
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 1
From: Florence, NJ
Only had my SS/SC for a little over a week. I am stage two and hit 15 on mine. Sometime it does range between 13-15 but never anything less and mostly always 15.

From what i understand though lots of people are hitting different psi. Would assume it has something to do with outside factors.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:57 PM
  #25  
xxxxsh4d0wxxxx's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 05-22-08
Posts: 3,460
Likes: 3
From: New Lenox, Illinois
I hit 13psi at WOT 2nd.. I've seen 14 some times if it's cool enough.

Temperature outside is a HUGE factor, as well as altitude. The Chicagoland area around this time of the year is muggy as ****.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:07 PM.