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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Question Gm Stage 3?

Allright guys i have narrowed it down between gm stage 2 and gm stage 3 jus for the fact im going with warrenty well hears the thingi like the gm stage 3 thats what i want but i heard u have to have gm stage 2 first what way can i get around that. Is there a way?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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3 isn't warrentied. "offroad use only"
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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No, no way around it... Stge 2 comes with the Injectors and Belt you need. THe only diff is the flash's, and Stg 3 comes with the 2x pass
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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No, no way around it... Stge 2 comes with the Injectors and Belt you need. THe only diff is the flash's, and Stg 3 comes with the 2x pass
so how much does it cost all together
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Oh also, you lose your A/C with stg 3... I'm sure U know that being as U were deciding between the 2... Ummm $$$... YOur looking at.. around $420ish for stg 2.... and I know CED had the cheapest price on stg3 last I remember looking...


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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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GM stage 3 is not covered under warranty....the GM stage 3 upgrade runs a good penny
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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For the GM stage 3 set up or the Stage 2 ?It's hard to find a dealer that will install the Stage3 because it is "off road" use only.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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GM stage 3 is not covered under warranty....the GM stage 3 upgrade runs a good penny
Yea, around $500ish if I remember....so Give or take $900 w/o install...


Better off going stage 2 and getting supporting mods, and calling it a day... my $.02

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For the GM stage 3 set up or the Stage 2 ?It's hard to find a dealer that will install the Stage3 because it is "off road" use only.
lol, yea, OFFroad use, and the fact that the 2x pass seems to be a PITA to put on!

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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^pretty much..bsides if your worried about the wrranty.then your only option is the GM Stage 2
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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^pretty much..bsides if your worried about the wrranty.then your only option is the GM Stage 2
is gm stage 2 still pretty quick
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blazinbaltss
is gm stage 2 still pretty quick
YEA! I've never really heard any1 not surprised with how sweet it is.. I had the stg2 till I got tuned... Its pretty sweet. and the stg3 after stg isn't that worth it.


Stage 2 FTW!
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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^pretty much..bsides if your worried about the wrranty.then your only option is the GM Stage 2
i dunno its to hard to choose like so basically the stage 3 for zzp is the same as stage two but a smaller pulley
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blazinbaltss
i dunno its to hard to choose like so basically the stage 3 for zzp is the same as stage two but a smaller pulley
ok...GM Stage 2 is identical to the zzp stage 3 in performance...what makes the zzp stage 3 better is as follows....zzp makes seperate pulleys so if you wanted to drop a pulley size then its no problem to get another one that will fit your hub....the 42lb injects come with a seperate wiring harness that will fit the 60's also so if you wanna upgrade to the 60lb injectors later, then you won't have to get a harness (Gm stage 2 injectors fit factory injector harness)....and the tune for the zzp stage 3 is included in the price

if you want to keep warranty then your only choices are the GM Stage 1 or 2

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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I would go GM stage 2 and put one of Nates pulley's on there (like a 2.95" pulley). It would be a good idea to get some kind of cooling mods, the dual pass intercooler or a second/bigger heat exchanger, to help keep the temps down.

Of course if you want to stay 100% in warranty the most you can do is stage 2.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Stage 2, and a Dual Pass would be ok . As far as I'm concerned any way! lol
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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yea...i keep recommending the zzp stage 3 or 4 because its cheaper and includes the tune...then the only thing outside paying for the stage kit that he would pay for is to ship the pcm to zzp to get reflashed and to get the pulley pressed off the stock supercharger
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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you could put your own stage 3 together if you want. The only real additions you need are a 2.9" pulley and a dual pass end plate. The rest of stage 3 is the addition of a new ecu which enables the ability to turn on a race mode and run a 50shot at the loss of your a/c

Originally Posted by rnjmur
I would go GM stage 2 and put one of Nates pulley's on there (like a 2.95" pulley). It would be a good idea to get some kind of cooling mods, the dual pass intercooler or a second/bigger heat exchanger, to help keep the temps down.

Of course if you want to stay 100% in warranty the most you can do is stage 2.
you can do whatever your want to the car even under warrenty. unless they can prove your mods caused an issue your in the clear. that doesn't mean they can't refuse service cus they can but you can try somewhere else.

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