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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Nah not really. Some people have trouble with the dual pass setup, but the rest of it is pretty easy. The meth injection is extremely easy and the most efficient. The heat exchangers are pretty easy too. It just depends on how much knowledge you have on working on cars.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Nah not really. Some people have trouble with the dual pass setup, but the rest of it is pretty easy. The meth injection is extremely easy and the most efficient. The heat exchangers are pretty easy too. It just depends on how much knowledge you have on working on cars.
Which one should I get first?
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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If you have a way to get a tune onto your pcm like from ottperformance, then get a methanol injection kit. This is by far the best mod possible for cooling! After that I would go with a heat exchanger, and then a dual pass option b setup.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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i have GM stage 3
with the dual pass OPTION B, and an aftermarket heat exchanger..
i spray water in the summer..
it gets beaten on quite a bit in the spring/summer..
and its still kicking.
nitrous is fun too..
it dosnt run pig rich like stage1/2 and timing is upped also.
i run a 2.85 pulley with it and its perfect.
you can log through hpt or the areoforce and i get zero knock.
iat and iat2s are good.
obviously you cant make any changes in the tune.

Now that its winter the car still runs mint.
no glitches or hiccups ect.
dont have to worry about retunes, ect.
i still dont kill it in this weather though, dont see a need.
it runs much better on stock plugs though no matter what temps.
atleast my car does anyway, could be different for others.


put it this way.
with a broken t-stat and a broken intercooler pump my car still made 250 hp on the NITROUS TUNE.
but no nitrous was being sprayed.., The nitrous tune dips into the low to mid 10s from 3500 rpm on. We were just doing a bunch of tests on the dyno, then relazied my car had some broken parts so we shut her down.

now imagine what i could of made on my 93 tune or 100 octane tune if my car was running properly... (IE working t-stat/IC pump)
i run 94 all year around.

now the car is ready to go, gonna wait to the spring to get my final results including a nitrous pull.
hope this helped.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Thats good info to have, an actual user...

stage 3 allows kills your ac, by not allowing you to use it.

If you run meth injection, the car actually "sees" the 100 octane and will use the mode.

Other than that, id honestly still go for the OTT kit.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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you can get the a/c back.
there is a how to, i never use it anyway so it was no loss for me.

i havnt played with meth and my 100 octane tune.
there is a shop 5 min away that sells 100 octane, so when ever i feel the need, i grab a bunch from there

also you can play with the rev limit, i set mine at 7200 and shift around 7 grand.
GM stage 3 is a cool thing, and ive seen much more engine failures with custom tunes than GM tunes,
although there are some people on this site who can tune like no other.
Then there are others who dont have a clue..

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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go with ottp stage kit. and why u are buying the kit buy their h/e. and u should be fine for awhile if u cant afford to go with meth or dual pass.
wat mods do u have already??
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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wow i hear a lot of miss informed people again!!!!!! I have gm stage 3 and i think it is awesome it is a better tune than stage 2, I would recomend to anybody. Unless you have someone local that knows how to tune a lsj i would go with gm stage 3. I would not trust just any shop to tune my car that is not a good idea.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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go with ottp stage kit. and why u are buying the kit buy their h/e. and u should be fine for awhile if u cant afford to go with meth or dual pass.
wat mods do u have already??
I just have the airbox mid and custom exhaust
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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im still stock but im going to be going stage 2 soon and maybe even stage 3 but anyway does anyone know a good place to get a tune around philadelphia?
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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just get gm stage 3
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by THRcobalt07
methanol injection, a dual pass end plate (the thing that comes with the stage 3 kit you were looking at), or a new heat exchanger. hell or a combination of all 3



It wasn't that they really beat the **** out of them. The one guy that I know a decent amount about he works for one of the dealerships back home. He tells me that GM has other codes and whatnot besides the reflashes. Well evidently he kept messing with pulley sizes and these codes till it was no more. When I go home tomorrow Ill give this guy a call to find out what not to do.
highlighted in red is your answer...

i thought gm stage 3 was lots of fun!

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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What do you mean by that?
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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What about the supercharger upgrade OTT offers?
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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the tvs...what about it.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by THRcobalt07
What do you mean by that?
He tells me that GM has other codes and whatnot besides the reflashes. Well evidently he kept messing with pulley sizes and these codes till it was no more.


complete bull **** there is 3 flashes one for 05-06, one for 07, and a update for 05-06...


that guy is full of **** like most GM techs on here...

i work with HPT and i have worked at a chevy stealership... that guy is full of **** if he thinks theres other things than the stage reflashes
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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lol, i love this forum!! +invisi rep for hungryhip-ccp!!
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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is it any good?? What's the hp gain all I could find for the cobalt there was that I couldn't find any stage kits
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Thats cool, I really dont care. I'm just telling you guys of what I have heard, and I get flamed for it..sweet deal guys. It's pretty sad if you ask me
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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I just have the airbox mid and custom exhaust
go with injen intake, ottp stage 1 (best stage kit out for the money), ottp h/e, and meth and u should be good for a while
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by THRcobalt07
Thats cool, I really dont care. I'm just telling you guys of what I have heard, and I get flamed for it..sweet deal guys. It's pretty sad if you ask me
think of it this way... at least you didnt continue on his path and blow your motor up! (you were saved lol)
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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obviously smartass
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
lol, i love this forum!! +invisi rep for hungryhip-ccp!!
how ya been? hows that clutch holding up to that 50 shot? ready for more power yet? maybe after winter?


i aint scared lol










hey zach.... you ever seen iat-2's in the 30's lol

winter, air to air intercooler mod.... get one!!!

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
how ya been? hows that clutch holding up to that 50 shot? ready for more power yet? maybe after winter?


i aint scared lol








kdws in the snow? hows that working out for you?
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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kdws in the snow? hows that working out for you?

how did you know they were kd's

ok ok so i was a little scared lol

hey zach.... you ever seen iat-2's in the 30's lol

winter, air to air intercooler mod.... get one!!!

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