but come on now, do they really thing people are going to take it in and out. I'd install it and call it a day. Maybe take it out for inspection, but now they don't do emissions here, they just plug it into the ODBII and as long as it doesn't throw a CEL it will pass.

 

I know it's standalone. Who wants standalone?? Put it in, take it out WTF! That's just wack. How about some parts that just stay installed? Also, yeah the stage 3 may be standalone but what about all the internals you have to mess with? Valve springs, cams, pistons. If stage 3 was a 2.6 pulley, bigger injectors, header, exhaust and a reflash you wouldn't have to.

 

That's just it. It DOESNT require internal work. Stage 3 pushes the limits of the stock internals. If you want to go that extra step, take advantage of an even higher redline, then yes, you need to do a little work.

I'm sure they mean for this to be simple put on/take off for a weekend of racing. Remember the computer is not emissions certified, so it cant be a reflash. It's a box you plug in and take off later when youre done. Exhaust/Header is just expensive and not required (or cost feasible). The smaller pulley is easily swappable because of the Modular system Stage2 gives you.

 

How is it just a box that plugs in if there's nitrous involved? How does the nitrous get into the intake? Where is the WOT switch etc. ???

 

I saw what looked like 4 jets going into the intake manifold. Not "sure".

Remember, this kit is designed for weekend warriors. It disables your A/C.

 

Attention all SS.net-o-philes!

Shut up, And be HAPPY you're getting a Stage 3!

Plug & Play is better than nothing. If you don't like it, Wait till the aftermarket comes out with something better. Ok?

Sorry guys, just needed to get that off my chest. Just some words of wisdom from your friendly neighborhood post *****.

ZZZip! (sound of Nate putting on a flame retardant suit)

 

hmmmm..... Danm you , y didn't you just steal it, or at least snap some cameraphone pics or sumthin

 

BLAH BLAH?? I am Excited, I just wanna know more details.

 

I wish.

 

you can spray through the blower, it will not hurt anything... and look at it this way, the nitrous is there morte for the cooling efect anyway, acts like a 2nd intercooler and drops your intake charge temp down dramaticaly!! thats why im only spraying like a 35 or so shot, just to cool the intake charge

 

Well more ***** is better than nothing. I, like everyone else, just want some pics and more info...

 

I was just figuring if GM is going to spray before the blower, then it definetly can't be a problem

 

This is great news!!!!!

 

where did you get that? where can we find information about this stage 3? cost$ HP?

thanks

 

This isnt "official" release information. I was "allowed" to open my mouth a little now that it's almost complete (to entice the internet crowd). I've known about S3 for a long time and finally got to see and ride in the test car the other day. It's pretty neat.

Pricing and HP figures are unknown. You'll just have to wait til they say something, or it may go straight to the catalog when its ready, who knows!

 

honestly... im disapointed.. im greatful that were getting stage 3, but i thought it would be something more...

 

This is funny maybe GM heard us being dissapointed about taking our engines and throwing a turbo on instead and making 260 hp stock with the GTP soltice......lol

 

sounds sweet, althought i'd rather have a car without the bottle...and installing a tb isnt really plug and play...but still

isn't a 2.6 inch pully too small for the supercharger? well at least pushing the limits?

forgive me if i'm wrong.

 

I believe people with the intense kits have been doing alright with them so far.

 

I don't understand why GM would use Nitrous. I understand that it's off-road use only and so is Mopars Stage 3 Mopars Stage 3 is pushin about 4-500hp in the SRT-4 with a price tage of $5,500. This Stage 3 kit u speak of is mind boggling. I'm not sure if I believe it. GM would be asking for a lot of trouble if they were to support a kit that uses Nitrous. Especially if it gets into the wrong hands

 

its a direct port set up , if you read back he said there was 4

im guessing this is the set-up from the time attack cobalt

 

A lot of mis-information here as well. ALL mopar stage kits are "off-road" only. Mopar S3 on pump gas will push about 310hp, on racegas it jumps to 355hp. I just read recently that Stage 3 guy on race gas with every bolton he could get as well as tuning with an SAFC got 407whp out of his (but typically mid-high 300's is what S3 sees). Also, Stage 3 without toys is about $3000 and with toys is around $3600 (a few hundred less if you have a DCX employee discount). If an SRT wants 400+, 99% of them will get a 3rd party turbo kit.

The GM kits just seem to be pushing the limits of what the engine can handle without having to break it open for pistons, springs, etc.

I've said everything i know. We'll just have to wait a month or so for some sort of word about its release.

 

Just look at the LSJ 300hp build. This should give you a decent idea of what this kit will do.

Fom what I have heard...everything is good for 600 hp except the valve springs and pistons. Valve springs being the weakest of the two.

 

Stage 3 Would Be Cool If It Was A Replacement S/c (screw-type Would Be Nice) That Pumps More Cfm At The Same Boost Levels! Sort Of Like Mopar Does With The Td04 Turbo(stock) To A Td05 Turbo(stage 3)!

 

More CFM will = more boost. You are cramming more air into the same amount of space.

More boost with less drag from the S/C and cooler charge temps would be the advantage of a larger screw type.