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Help understanding all the HEAT EXCHANGERS (information thread)

Old 08-28-2008, 04:32 PM
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What if I have the GM update for the CAI? Why should I run with the stock airbox? I know intense mentions the CEL for improper MAF placement but I am told that is fixed on my ride with an updated flash from GM.
what i've done is tested my cobalt personally with injen cai and a $19 buck filter on stock airbox with the bottom end of the intake the box taken out. same as injen cai other than one is metal and one is plastic. also one little bend. personally sound wise it is the same the way i did mine. also when i go into my dealer the top end still looks like the stock intake bottom end just has the box cut-out and a after market filter.

performance wise i have no proof other than my word that they are the same if you do the stock airbox mod like i did.

i have done my own tests. i know they are the same. i've had people who had injen sell theres and copy my stock airbox idea
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CBodnar View Post
what i've done is tested my cobalt personally with injen cai and a $19 buck filter on stock airbox with the bottom end of the intake the box taken out. same as injen cai other than one is metal and one is plastic. also one little bend. personally sound wise it is the same the way i did mine. also when i go into my dealer the top end still looks like the stock intake bottom end just has the box cut-out and a after market filter.

performance wise i have no proof other than my word that they are the same if you do the stock airbox mod like i did.

i have done my own tests. i know they are the same. i've had people who had injen sell theres and copy my stock airbox idea
So the $200 I spent on my AEM CAI is a waste?
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver View Post
So the $200 I spent on my AEM CAI is a waste?
unfortunately, yes. however if it looks pretty and makes you happy that is all that matters.
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:20 PM
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unfortunately, yes. however if it looks pretty and makes you happy that is all that matters.
That blows......then how did AEM, K&N, Injen...all those companies get around 8-9 HP dyno changes?
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver View Post
That blows......then how did AEM, K&N, Injen...all those companies get around 8-9 HP dyno changes?
the filter and the size of the piping.


Some good info here on cbodnar

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132230

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the filter and the size of the piping.
pretty much.

funny thing though if you look or find out stock intake is 2.5 and injen is 2.5 lol

rebel 3" is the only one that is truly bigger
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Originally Posted by CBodnar View Post
pretty much.

funny thing though if you look or find out stock intake is 2.5 and injen is 2.5 lol

rebel 3" is the only one that is truly bigger
Well well well....I will more then likely install this bastard CAI since it will be a gain for me...sounds like I may have paid too much.

On a positive note my TTR sway bar came in today.
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has any1 on here bought the zzp 1 if so is it any good?
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has any1 on here bought the zzp 1 if so is it any good?
not sure. i think only the one guy running zzp's twin charge kit is running it. viper something is his name. look him up and then pm him. good luck
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I bought one this week...it hasn't come in yet. When it does I'll give you all my impressions.
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which 1 do u guys suggest which is the best h/e
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which 1 do u guys suggest which is the best h/e
there is no best h/e. some say get cx h/e the big one cause it is the biggest and most coolant. others say small one because it is less coolant and you don't need as much. it all depends. for me i just went with the big cx h/e because i thought it looked the best and fit the whole front.
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I went with ZZP for price and ease of install...I'm not going out to buy anything and i don't need to trim or cut anything....all to taste....others will say go to ebay and get a cobra H/E ect...
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which 1 do u guys suggest which is the best h/e
factory GM racing Griffin aftercooler 1.5 inches dual pass in stock location
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hey how do u like ur 2.9" pulley? did it make a difference over the stage 2 1?
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My ZZP H/E didn't come with any instructions...is there anything around for that....I've been doing a search and not finding anything.

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hey how do u like ur 2.9" pulley? did it make a difference over the stage 2 1?
Yes very nice boost increase....more TQ everywhere.

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:25 PM
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Bump for question on installing H/E...................
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Will this work??

Overall dimension(W*L*H): 27.25" * 7" * 2.5"
Core dimension(W*L*H): 21.5" * 7" * 2.5"
Inlet/Outlet(OD): 2.25"

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Will this work??

Overall dimension(W*L*H): 27.25" * 7" * 2.5"
Core dimension(W*L*H): 21.5" * 7" * 2.5"
Inlet/Outlet(OD): 2.25"
no that is an air-to-air intercooler. we need a liquid intercooler.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack View Post

Will this work??

Overall dimension(W*L*H): 27.25" * 7" * 2.5"
Core dimension(W*L*H): 21.5" * 7" * 2.5"
Inlet/Outlet(OD): 2.25"
hahahahahahahahaha, lol
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??? HAHAHHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA ...

HAHAA??

Sorry it was cheap and didnt really know the difference at the time...
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I think hes laughing because its a air intercooler im taking it lol....not everyone knows everything...valid question IMO...
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lol... its cool what ever...

I knew fmic they used in turbo kits but i didnt know if this could be fabbed on somehow... ya never know sometimes!
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I take it there's nothing out there specific for the zzp H/E in terms of installation....do I just pull the bumper using that how-to then try to mount it up by eye sight? Does it mount with the same bolt that the existing H/E is running? i want to run them in parallel.
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