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Higher boost with Injen CAI

Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Question Higher boost with Injen CAI

Hi, I bought a Injen Cai for my SS/SC cobalt and after installed my CAI, I remarked that my boost is higher than before I had my CAI. With the car stock my boost was 85Kpa on my canadian gauge and now is 100Kpa. What is the problem? Anybody get the same problem?
Is it dangerous to run with this extra boost ? Maybe my gauge is broken?


Sorry for my english, I'm still a french canadian guy .



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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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thats normal, every thing should be ok. more boost means more power man
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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more power = more good
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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mine boosted .5 psi more and got there faster once the intake was on
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Wow. That's about a 2 psi increase. I know giving the intake air an easier pathway will allow more air to be fed into the S/C rotors, but that is quite the jump.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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It's why I ask the question, 2 psi with a intake it's a lot. The stock boost on a canadian gauge in Kpa is what? I hope that my gauge is not broken.

Is it dangerous to be too lean? Because in the stage 2 you've have bigger injector to accept the higher boost.


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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba
It's why I ask the question, 2 psi with a intake it's a lot. The stock boost on a canadian gauge in Kpa is what? I hope that my gauge is not broken.

Is it dangerous to be too lean? Because in the stage 2 you've have bigger injector to accept the higher boost.


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85 KPA = 12.33 PSI. = roughly stock
100 KPA = 14.5 PSI = helluva jump for an intake.

Yes it is dangerous to be lean.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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It's what I think. Is it a way to take my supercharger pressure without the gauge. I want to know if my gauge is broken.



Because I don't think I get 2psi jump with just my intake.

It's very weird....
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSS-supercharged
thats normal, every thing should be ok. more boost means more power man
That is SO not true man. More efficient boost means more power. If the amount of boost you add only gets added with more heat, you generally are better off where you were. And putting an intake on wouldn't neccessarily make more boost. If anything you should see less unless what you are seeing in the blower breaking in from more mileage. When you open up the airflow and thus the veloctiy you will generally see less pressure. More pressure doesn't need as much velocity. Simple dynamics. Like water in a pipe or charge in a wire.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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intake = more psi generated

exhaust = less psi generated
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetDreamz
That is SO not true man. More efficient boost means more power. If the amount of boost you add only gets added with more heat, you generally are better off where you were. And putting an intake on wouldn't neccessarily make more boost. If anything you should see less unless what you are seeing in the blower breaking in from more mileage. When you open up the airflow and thus the veloctiy you will generally see less pressure. More pressure doesn't need as much velocity. Simple dynamics. Like water in a pipe or charge in a wire.
Not the same concept. Freeing up the area before the Eaton should increase boost.

To the original poster, it is a good idea to get a custom dyno tune once you change the stock air intake out. You don't want to be too lean.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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I'm the only one who have this thing happen. Is it possible to tune without a Dyno, because I'm in north of a Quebec and the nearest dyno is in Quebec City at 5hours.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba
I'm the only one who have this thing happen. Is it possible to tune without a Dyno, because I'm in north of a Quebec and the nearest dyno is in Quebec City at 5hours.
If you get HP Tuners, you can get some advice from Rob (Fast06SS) and do it yourself going by your 02's. So yes, it is possible, but you'll need HP Tuners.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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yes, u just do wide open throatle runs on the street
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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everyone who has added an itack increased there boost. it's completely normal.
the larger intake is able to draw more air with less effort, hence that effort is transfered into compressing that extra air. therefor more air is forced into the intake manifold = more boost.

your OK, but a tune is always a good option. but I'd say hold off until you have more mods so that you can justify the cost of a custom tune
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba
I'm the only one who have this thing happen. Is it possible to tune without a Dyno, because I'm in north of a Quebec and the nearest dyno is in Quebec City at 5hours.
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Keep an eye on it and ears open for strange noises.
If the cars runs well and goes good when you put your foot into the carpet then don't worry till there's something to worry about.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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The car goes really well, a lot of power and no hesitation. I wait for the winter ( yes in quebec, especially in the north we have a lot of snow) and after I will buy the stage 2.

Thank you for your answers.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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so now we dont need smaller pulleys, we can just get an intake for more lbs of boost
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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so now we dont need smaller pulleys, we can just get an intake for more lbs of boost
Haha. No man, you still need a smaller pulley.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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If you want an accurate boost/vac reading buy a mechanical boost/vac guage. I did and now I can see some of the odd stuff the computer does that it doesn't show through the stock gauge.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
If you want an accurate boost/vac reading buy a mechanical boost/vac guage. I did and now I can see some of the odd stuff the computer does that it doesn't show through the stock gauge.

Like what?
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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It's really hard to make any conclusion without more info. Like your AFR, maf readings, SCIP.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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How can I have this information?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Like what?
The last ~500 RPM before redline the boost starts to rapidly jump from ~8-10 psi.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetDreamz
That is SO not true man. More efficient boost means more power. If the amount of boost you add only gets added with more heat, you generally are better off where you were.
Bingo. I agree.

But I will say I don't know how harmful the boost increase is per heat.
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