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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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yea cause be can all afford that lol. but gotta give you credit for what your doing. if i had that kind of money though i would have to do awd. ik some would say impossible but hell people say rwd on a cobalt is impossible and look at victory. all it takes is a **** load of money lol.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by skymynx
yea cause be can all afford that lol. but gotta give you credit for what your doing. if i had that kind of money though i would have to do awd. ik some would say impossible but hell people say rwd on a cobalt is impossible and look at victory. all it takes is a **** load of money lol.
I didn't want awd because of the poor gas mileage
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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WTF im sry i didnt realize that you were concered with gas mileage lol. besides rwd is alot more fun. burn outs, donuts, corners. chevy should have made the cobalt rwd to begin with. then all of us would have been alot happier. and people wouldnt take us so lightly
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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if you do a 2.8 and 42's it is highly advised that you get meth/water injection. im one of the few that has 42's with an idc below 100%. well that is till i run to 7300. anyways. if you can find someone who knows what they are doing, instead of just punchin in numbers and sending you on your way. you will be good. someone who will tweak the maf tables, fine tune the timing tables, fuel tables, so on and so forth. you will be better off in the end. the person with the laptop controls your power.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Besides the bolt ons? I still would say get the heat exchanger. Its cheap and easy to do.



Get the tranny mounts. You will fall in love. You may not like the vibes for the fist couple hundred miles though haha.
is it that bad really? everyoen said the ingalls would vibrate, but it's actually vibrating less than when before i had it on now. i've been considering geting the tranny mounts. i keep saying i'm not going to do anything else, not happening.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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So if the pistons are good for 300hp, what is the rest of the internals good for?

And also, as someone stated earlier, to be on the safe side, stay in the 260-275whp range, what kind of times can one expect with those hp numbers?
Pistons are supposed to be good to 350 crank hp.
Rods are good to around 400 crank hp.
Crankshaft is good to 550 crank hp.

I don't think the rods have been tested yet because everyone who popped a piston has replaced the rods at the same time.

The crankshaft rating is GM's rating, which has not been tested outside of a lab.

A good way to improve the strength and hp limit of the crankshaft is to knife edge it, and cryo freeze it. Doing that will allow the crank to last a long time at 650 crank horsepower.

But when approaching the 600 crank hp mark it is recommended that the block be drilled and tapped for sandwich bolts. Or just purchasing the GM 2.16L racing block.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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yea, knife edging a crank is a brilliant idea for a street car....
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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The crankshafts in the 2.0 are good for 750bhp.
The rods are good to 550bhp.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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My car put down like...750 to the rear seat.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yea, knife edging a crank is a brilliant idea for a street car....


Talk to Blown4 banger about it.

honestly who is running 600+chp on a street driven cobalt?

And where did I say streetable?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
My car put down like...750 to the rear seat.
Too bad "she" said that with the drivetrain loss, it felt more like 7.5
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
The crankshafts in the 2.0 are good for 750bhp.
The rods are good to 550bhp.
That's some major bull right there.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie
That's some major bull right there.
You need to to do some better research then.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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I put down..... 10.4 hp and 3.95 wtq.... Wo0t....
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
You need to to do some better research then.
So you are saying tha the stock LSJ rods support more power than the Eagle rods huh?

Talk about doing your research.

And the crank has been tested to 550hp, and that is it.

That is why the build book recommends replacing with the Eagle crankshaft at that point.

I read the book, did you?

And there you have it ladies and gents, more green boxes does not mean more knowledge.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Just like the injectors can't handle over 240 whp (which they do I am proof)... There are soo many variables with these cars there is no END ALL book or pamphlet that can give exacts, the GM build book is just telling you what "THEY" did...

I'm not trying to argue I will never find the limits of the internals because I have no desire to get that high!

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by M-Dub
Just like the injectors can't handle over 240 whp (which they do I am proof)... There are soo many variables with these cars there is no END ALL book or pamphlet that can give exacts, the GM build book is just telling you what "THEY" did...
Okay, go ahead and try to get 550 chp out of the stock LSJ rods. And I really want to see someone try to get 750 chp out of the stock crank. Make sure to let me know when you give it gas the first time. You won't even be 1/2 throttle when the crank will snap in half. Sorry, but I am gonna trust some guys that do this for a living, and have unlimited budgets. Like my friend Tom Shaumbaugh. For those of you who don't know, he races his ecotec driven cavi for GM.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie


Talk to Blown4 banger about it.

honestly who is running 600+chp on a street driven cobalt?

And where did I say streetable?
talk to real engine builders. who build motors for drag cars from 600-2500 hp day in and day out.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
talk to real engine builders. who build motors for drag cars from 600-2500 hp day in and day out.
Tell me, how long before they break down the motor and rebuild?

Oh, and I have. I don't suggest it for street driven cars. But Blown4 banger is doing it no matter what people tell him.

I was just throwing him out there cuz he is gonna street drive it, and we will all see the drivability of that thing go out the window.

Don't get me wrong, I would never do it on a daily driver.

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Oh, I have. I don't suggest it for street driven cars. But Blown4 banger is doing it no matter what people tell him.

I was just throwing him out there cuz he is gonna street drive it, and we will all see the drivability of that thing go out the window.

Don't get me wrong, I would never do it on a daily driver.



Tell me, how long before they break down the motor and rebuild?
me either, sacraficing things here and there in the name of power, not much of a good idea.

ah well. to each their own. id do a crank scraper before i did a knifed cranked.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
is it that bad really? everyoen said the ingalls would vibrate, but it's actually vibrating less than when before i had it on now. i've been considering geting the tranny mounts. i keep saying i'm not going to do anything else, not happening.
No the vibes arent that bad. Trust me thought once you get them in you are going to fall in love with them. I honestly dont remeber ever having wheel hop with them.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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No the vibes arent that bad. Trust me thought once you get them in you are going to fall in love with them. I honestly dont remeber ever having wheel hop with them.
convinced me. you bitch. i pass total blame to you. expect a cranky call from the gf

in all seriousness, that's why i have new parts delivered to the office

after tightening the ingalls last night i was actually able to use the gas in 1st, and hear some boost without feeling like my head was getting torn off from wheel hop.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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convinced me. you bitch. i pass total blame to you. expect a cranky call from the gf

in all seriousness, that's why i have new parts delivered to the office

after tightening the ingalls last night i was actually able to use the gas in 1st, and hear some boost without feeling like my head was getting torn off from wheel hop.
i have a ttr engine mount in my car.
i can hammer it in first. spin. smoke. hit second fast, spin, spin, spin, even more smoke rolling down the side of the car. no wheel up. this is also on brushed concrete.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
convinced me. you bitch. i pass total blame to you. expect a cranky call from the gf

in all seriousness, that's why i have new parts delivered to the office

after tightening the ingalls last night i was actually able to use the gas in 1st, and hear some boost without feeling like my head was getting torn off from wheel hop.
The GF might like you even more with the added vibes

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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The GF might like you even more with the added vibes

Rep added for you D4! You to area 47. Rep for everyone!
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