The Rookie24

so I've been poking around the forums and can't really seem to get a ton of info on this some are saying it won't fit I've seen a post were some one talked about a guy who had one on it was put mid 300s but haven't seen pic with it actuating in the car running I'm considering this only cause from what I've heard they a good cheap reliable turbo and my goals for my lsj are 400 at most so does anyone have evidence of it it fits or what needs to be done to make it fit the one I'm considering is the hx35 but i did see they offer a smaller one x30 would that one clear better and still reach close to my goal I'm gunna be using my zzp cast turbo mani with 38 mm band waste gate so can i block off the internal one ? or do they have option get rid of it all together ?

07blackg5

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why not just run a turbo that has been proven on this platform?

The Rookie24

I'm interested in them cause they can be had for cheap and are reliable

user 72239

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Basically he wants to do this as cheap as possible, and a full turbo kit is probably just too much money. Holset swaps are the cheap ghetto swap. They aren't really that reliable at high boost, but are cheap to replace if broken.

The Rookie24

sorta yea lol and I'm not looking to make a crazy build just mid 300s id be happy till i finish my lsx turbo build 700 low boost hoping for 900 on high and stick it in something small like a old 240z haha and it does not hurt my buddy owns a diesel repair shop so discounts for days haha

blueLNFftw

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The turbo should clear just fine. you may need to clock it tho.

The Rookie24

really from what I've seen it hits the firewall have u seen it done?

blueLNFftw

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That's what a hammer is for. The 30 should fit or need minimal pounding.

mrbelvedere

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talk to alan mcclure on here he ran an hx35 for a while

The Rookie24

i messaged him on facebook waiting to hear back from him

Area47

I am calling BULLSHIT on this. do you research before making dumb claims.

user 72239

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I did do my research. I did extensive research on this with my LSJ and that was what i Found.

Think before you run your mouth

Area47

I did think actually. The HX35W 7 blade for instance, the lowest on a factory preset actuator arm is 20psi and are stable to well over 30psi and sustain over 500whp on an lsj, or 4g63. An HX40 will do over 600whp and will run an easy 40psi. Holset turbo's do not take kindly to low pressures or shaft speeds as they are designed for diesel applications. They got the bad rap, such as yours, from people taking then 800k turbos and cranking the crap out of them vs playing with a new balanced unit. I have seen more brand new precision turbo's **** the bed than holsets. I have one, I know exactly what it is capable of doing in the right hands.

The Rookie24

calm down guys lol are 47 soda hx35 will fit behind a lsj ?now heres another question how do i make it externally waste gated cause i have 38 mm vband on my zzp mani is there a away to get them with out internal wastegates

07blackg5

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You can weld the internal gate closed, or there are ways to hold the actuator arm closed

The Rookie24

is there any way to swap the turbine housing? still waiting to hear from alan also

blueLNFftw

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Turbo shop needs to do it

The Rookie24

why does it need to be machined or something cause isn't just bolt on bolt off the housing

armcclure

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Sorry I get so many fb messages that a lot get skipped over accidentally.

Holset un-reliability comment is bullshit. Exactly what bryan said.

I had to hammer back the firewall on mine. HX35W. I used the 12cm (iirc) housing, the one that's close to .89ar. Machined off the whole outlet, welded wg hole closed, and welded on 3" v-band. Knife edged divider as far down as I could reach. Full boost was a hair over 4k, which was delayed more than normal due to my cams.

If you have access to machining it is a very affordable option. I had just a few hundred bucks in mine, and that was including a new oem compressor wheel, new turbine/shaft, rebuild kit, and balancing.
I did have to hammer back the firewall a bit, like I said, but not much. Just a couple swings with a small sledge hammer.

The Rookie24

so what if i picked up a HY35 that has a 9cm housing thats smaller correct so it would spool faster right ?

armcclure

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Correct.

The Rookie24

one last question what exactly does the HY35 look like cause when i google it the results show that the one has a bend at the compressor tip and the other one is normal and on the forums that have these pics both are saying they are HY35 is it jus different version one with bend at the tip and one that doesn't ??

Thanks guys

blueLNFftw

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Yup.
It depends on which vehicle it was built for.

NY Cobalt/tc

I dont know if this is needed but here ya go anyways!

Hey! First off im not here to fight with anyone! I have an LNF, the HX35 does not fit. I had to do some good ole firewall pounding. I actually only had to pound in a inch maybe inch and a half to get it to fit. I also had the wastegated hx35 so I took the OEM wastegate actuator off and ground down the little bracket that holds it on, as I am using a Tial wastegate. The swap IS NOT easy(what ever is with cars??) because there's obviously no kit to make it bolt on. Im using the Treadstone t3 manifold, it mates up fine, if you use the ZZP manifold(I've never tried it) it looks like the Hx35 might actually fit without doing some firewall banging. As far as cheap, yes they're kinda of cheaper turbos BUT! they've been proven for over 500hp at 30psi 50lbs/min. And from what I've read else where can get another 10psi out of them. Id recommend to have a decent rebuild kit like I did. I went straight to the dodge dealership and got their rebuild kit(no cheap pieces). I would also recommend to buy the intake tube that v-bands to the intake side tip that will make things a lot easier for fabricating up a hotside pipe.

I will be running 2 different tunes(these not logged yet) made by terminator
93oct tune 22.5psi
100oct 30psi
As I am not done with the build I don't have to much more info besides the things I've personally researched. Ill start a build thread soon enough. I should be done in a few weeks.

20Tsaabsteve

There are a ton of variants. Just make sure the turbo has the original serial tag and it should be stamped on the tag hy35. I am sure you know but there is a ton of information on the dsmtuners forum.

You can also get t3 turbine housings for the HX35 from bullseye performance, which is like a .70 a/r and great for spool and still maxes out the compressor I believe.

Area, are you running a custom manifold?