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Old 05-12-2009, 01:46 AM
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IAT2's after H/E Install

What should my IAT's be at after a 50-110 WOT run? I was seeing 188-194... Right now, there is only about a gallon of coolant added and I think more will need to be added. What is the best way to bleed the air out of the H/E?
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check out my sig for what i have done, at the top of third gear i see 135 tops

with the dual pass intercooler endplate it will bleed out the air into the option b tank
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Your pump's fucked.
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Pump is fine... Just trying to bleed air out.
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after the car is cooled down, normally every morning i did it after i installed my ottp dual pass h/e. i just opened up the filler neck and kept adding coolant, till finally i didn't need to keep adding. but, after we did install it, we took the coolant line coming off the pump and held that as vertical and as high as we could. i'm pretty sure we temporarily coupled it to a longer hose. so the end of the hose was the highest part in the system, and then just kept pouring and pouring untill it was flowing out of the pump. then reattached the hose
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190 iat? stop driving. your car is going to die.




either you pump is not working or you have more air than coolant in the h/e lines.
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what are you mods from a 40 to 130 i see about 130
Old 05-12-2009, 10:41 AM
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well.... i got 2.8 pulley and mid way to 4th i see about 150... but im in miami and im talking about 90+ degrees ambient temp...
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You need meth injection.

meth > H/E > dual pass
Old 05-12-2009, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm5036
You need meth injection.

meth > H/E > dual pass
you need all 3 to cool these cars
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190 IAT means don't drive hard, holy crap!

If you do't have the GM option B setup, then there is no easy way to bleed the lines. You have to drive the car and just keep adding more coolant. It can easily take a couple of weeks to bleed all the air out.

On the stock HE there is a bleed screw on the top passenger side (which is where the option B hooks up). If you get a NPT barb fitting and put it in there then run a hose from the barb to the fill neck you can bleed it that way. An aftermarket HE may have a bleed screw on it somewhere as well and if so you would need to do the same thing to get the air out of it as well.
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Originally Posted by rnjmur
190 IAT means don't drive hard, holy crap!

If you do't have the GM option B setup, then there is no easy way to bleed the lines. You have to drive the car and just keep adding more coolant. It can easily take a couple of weeks to bleed all the air out.

On the stock HE there is a bleed screw on the top passenger side (which is where the option B hooks up). If you get a NPT barb fitting and put it in there then run a hose from the barb to the fill neck you can bleed it that way. An aftermarket HE may have a bleed screw on it somewhere as well and if so you would need to do the same thing to get the air out of it as well.
.... It went up to 190 IAT from 120... Thanks though. I let off when I saw this. Right now, the H/E has a little over a gallon of coolant in it. Just wondering how much more it will take.
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Are you 100% sure your intercooler pump is working because I would put money on it that it doesn't.
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
.... It went up to 190 IAT from 120... Thanks though. I let off when I saw this. Right now, the H/E has a little over a gallon of coolant in it. Just wondering how much more it will take.
Are you running an aftermarket HE and stock HE, just an aftermarket, or just stock HE? The stock system holds 2 quarts. If you added an aftermarket HE then it would be 2 quarts + aftermarket... probably somewhere around a gallon or so.

The car will pull timing when the IAT2 gets that high, so it won't hurt the car unless you keep doing it. You may just want to be careful until it can get bled all the way.
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
.... It went up to 190 IAT from 120... Thanks though. I let off when I saw this. Right now, the H/E has a little over a gallon of coolant in it. Just wondering how much more it will take.
what are you logging your IAT's with? Aeroforce? HPT?

Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
Are you 100% sure your intercooler pump is working because I would put money on it that it doesn't.
That is what happened when my pump went out... I would double check the pump..
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logging is dne through an aeroforce gauge. the pump is working and staying around 120 during normal driving. im running the stock H/E and the ZZP one.
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my temp is like 80 wail driving your pump is not working
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
logging is dne through an aeroforce gauge. the pump is working and staying around 120 during normal driving. im running the stock H/E and the ZZP one.
When you do a pull doesn it recover back to 120 in a decent amount of time? or does it stay with 190 for a while?

How do you know your pump is working just because of 120 running temp?

If it recovers semi quick, it probably has air in it, needs purging. come to think of it, even with bubbles in my system with stock H/E, just with DP I wasnt running that high, that is why we are all pointing at the pump.
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2006RedCobaltSS What kind of mods do you have besides the heat exchanger? (pulley size, exhaust, etc)

120 is not too horrible for a hot day, it should not go above 140 though even at w0t. The PCM progressively pulls timing to avoid melting a piston and or detonation.
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how r u checking ur temps?
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
you need all 3 to cool these cars
aint that the truf

Originally Posted by Bika
2006RedCobaltSS What kind of mods do you have besides the heat exchanger? (pulley size, exhaust, etc)

120 is not too horrible for a hot day, it should not go above 140 though even at w0t. The PCM progressively pulls timing to avoid melting a piston and or detonation.
good luck with that... well relying on that anyways...

but yes your right

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ok first off everone in this thread does not live where he lives maby its 23469834956349 degres out there lol but anyhow i would say like the others to just check to make sure coolant is flowing.. its easy to look at.. bleading it i would do it the way some 1 b4 me said use the stock h/e and do the opt b into its self and it will self blead( prob take a whie thought lol)

1.Tap off where the opt b tank does
2.run a line from that bleeder to the filler neck( on top) and let it go and go...( idk if having the cap off the neck while its running willwork but idk...
3. you could always blead it into a clean tank or something of the sort( the gallon jug u filled it with and keep adding it back in... that will get rid of the air.)
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i dont care if you live in alaska, or death valley or the moon for that matter 190 is
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Originally Posted by 06_SIC_SS
how r u checking ur temps?
post #17

I live in AZ man, its 102 degrees right now and I wouldnt even pull that without any cooling mods.


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