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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Idea On Improving Our Traction

When a car accelerates the rear end sinks and the front end rises. Since we are front wheel drive cars this is why we have such horrible traction in our SS's. A simple way to improve this would to be lower it in the front so it’s harder for the front end to lift. GM has somewhat already have done this, so technically speaking, the people who put a lowering spring kit on their SS should be getting even worse traction.
Would anyone who has installed lowering springs do an experiment for us? Run your car at the track and tell us what you ran. Then take your rear lowering springs off and put your OEM ones back on, then take it to the track again and tell us what you ran.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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not to **** on your idea but, when you hit the brakes your front will dive into the pavement, just to mention a few problems. you could just drive around with a passenger. most of the cars weight is over the front wheels anyways, its better than having rwd for that matter.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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It's not really about ride height, that doesn't have much to do with it. More the stiffness of your suspension. What you want is a rear spring that doesn't compress easily, and a front spring that has high resistance to stretching. That would keep you planted a bit better, but probably make the car handle like ass most of the time. The rear would feel very rough.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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you can also get some spring blockers. By limiting the "squat" from the rear, you will not have as much weight transfer and thus better traction.

You would not get worse traction from lowering springs as those springs stiffer than factory springs and thus prevent the compression/ expansion of the springs.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by stlurbanpunk
not to **** on your idea but, when you hit the brakes your front will dive into the pavement, just to mention a few problems. you could just drive around with a passenger. most of the cars weight is over the front wheels anyways, its better than having rwd for that matter.
Wrong pale face, the spring only drops the car 1/2 an inch in the front so the car will not scrape. Why drive around with a passenger? That's more weight. I was talking about having the car at an angle so it will create less weight transfer to the rear in the accelleration process.
Go outside, find a 4x4 piece of wood. Set one end on a table chair and the other on the ground. Lift the side that's on the ground. Now put both ends under a table chair so that the board is level and lift it again. Which was easier?
And as far as your comment about RWD being better, both FWD and RWD are obsolete.

Originally Posted by DanM
It's not really about ride height, that doesn't have much to do with it. More the stiffness of your suspension. What you want is a rear spring that doesn't compress easily, and a front spring that has high resistance to stretching. That would keep you planted a bit better, but probably make the car handle like ass most of the time. The rear would feel very rough.
What you're talking about is a drag suspension that isn't ready to ship yet. I was thinking more in terms of what we already have now to work with. But I agree completely with what you say.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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all i know is after my springs my wheels dont hop anymore, before it used to be terrible
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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[QUOTE=VaMP]Wrong pale face, the spring only drops the car 1/2 an inch in the front so the car will not scrape. Why drive around with a passenger? That's more weight. I was talking about having the car at an angle so it will create less weight transfer to the rear in the accelleration process.
Go outside, find a 4x4 piece of wood. Set one end on a table chair and the other on the ground. Lift the side that's on the ground. Now put both ends under a table chair so that the board is level and lift it again. Which was easier?
And as far as your comment about RWD being better, both FWD and RWD are obsolete.



What you're talking about is a drag suspension that isn't ready to ship yet. I was thinking more in terms of what we already have now to work with. But I agree completely with what you say.[/QUOTE



I dont even want to coment back, this was just my 2 cents anyways. I'll have you know that my face is not pale, it is indead very tan for a blond because i work outside, poolside. if your so certain what you want to do is so great, then do it.
what i want to post about your coment about how you said "rwd is better" will just **** you off, so instead i will write: re-read my post.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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Engine mounts would work great on our FWD cars. so would a torke brace. but both togeather would almost elimate wheel hop>
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:50 AM
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The look of having a hopped up SS is sweet.. jk
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DanM
It's not really about ride height, that doesn't have much to do with it. More the stiffness of your suspension. What you want is a rear spring that doesn't compress easily, and a front spring that has high resistance to stretching. That would keep you planted a bit better, but probably make the car handle like ass most of the time. The rear would feel very rough.

eaxactly what he said
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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The Cobalt SS traction problems are 99% tire related not suspension.
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