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Old May 13, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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hi i want to know if any one here knows if there are any cams besides th jbp cams.....if not how well are the jbp cams.......also if i where to get cams could i run my stock cam gears or would it be best to replace them.....
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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comp cams....
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:58 AM
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Yes, you can get the stock cams reground
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Old May 13, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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Lot of people lately have been going with the 272 regrind. And your better off replacing your cam gears.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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zzp ecotec cams and they say you can use stock valvetrain
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Lot of people lately have been going with the 272 regrind. And your better off replacing your cam gears.
if you haven't seen a 272 dyno graph compared to a stock cam graph. you wouldn't be saying that
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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not a big fan of the 272 cams...i have jbp's in mine..they are way pricey tho
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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I've gotta find someone who wants to sell just an exhaust cam.
I'm going to give the good old 272/264 a try this fall (on stock cam timing)
Less duration on the exhaust side, but i have a feeling that the decreased overlap could benefit us.

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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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272/264

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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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272/264

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LAWL.... my bad... typo...
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Old May 13, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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im quick to point the obvious
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by advise
zzp ecotec cams and they say you can use stock valvetrain
interesting would like more info on these, are they new?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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there by gm the where just add to the site
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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thanks 4 the info......
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
if you haven't seen a 272 dyno graph compared to a stock cam graph. you wouldn't be saying that
Till now not seen any dyno graph of 272 cammed LSJ... (or any cammed LSJ compared to stock cams that is...)

Enlighten us Area47.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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not a big fan of the 272 cams...i have jbp's in mine..they are way pricey tho
Indeed. How do YOU like them?

Originally Posted by racehtecobalt
hi i want to know if any one here knows if there are any cams besides th jbp cams.....if not how well are the jbp cams.......also if i where to get cams could i run my stock cam gears or would it be best to replace them.....
My JBP Stg2's are for sale WITH the Valve Springs. Never installed. $550 shipped for Cams and VS's... that's a fuggin deal.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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My JBP Stg2's are for sale WITH the Valve Springs. Never installed. $550 shipped for Cams and VS's... that's a fuggin deal.[/QUOTE]

why you sellin? that is a sweet deal, thats like 50% off lol
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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he cracked his tranny and needs money
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
I've gotta find someone who wants to sell just an exhaust cam.
I'm going to give the good old 272/264 a try this fall (on stock cam timing)
Less duration on the exhaust side, but i have a feeling that the decreased overlap could benefit us.
Umm, I think you mean 264/272?

Less duration exhaust side works against you on a supercharged car, I think you mean less on the intake side.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Witt
Umm, I think you mean 264/272?

Less duration exhaust side works against you on a supercharged car, I think you mean less on the intake side.
Nope... I mean more on the intake, but less overlap so we have less blow though.
I believe we'd be dealing with 2 degrees of active overlap with a 272/264.

Really, it's not my idea... but the numbers looked so promising, that I said I'd try it one day.

As it was proposed to me;
We are limited by the problem that we are forcing air into the engine, but have no limitation on the exhaust side (as in no turbo to resist the exhaust flow).
Our solution, is to decrease the amount of blow though, due to valve opening overlap.
Let's experment;
272/272 cam profile is obviously where the problem starts. Running too much boost will simply set you back as your just blowing though a fair amount of useful air/fuel.
Try a 264/272 profile. The LSA on this combination is 3 degrees, and considering the profile of each cam, you are left with about 13 degrees of over lap. Obviously this system isn't too much of an improvement over the 272/272 combination.
Now try a 272/264 profile. The LSA on this combination is 4 degrees, and again considering the profile of each cam, you are left with 10 degrees of overlap.

This combination will provide a longer fill period, as well as taking advantage of the higher cylinder pressures on the exhaust side. The 264 profile tends to promote a more broad power band, including a strong mid range, as well as taking advantage of the higher flow and boost pressures at the top end.
There's more.. but that's the jist of it.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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thats why i dont like the 272s...been seeing alot of intake charge being loss with the duration..no one seems to think so tho
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cam gears would be a better end route on the 272/272 set up
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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cam gears would be a better end route on the 272/272 set up
best statement i EVER heard when using 272 in it...
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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retard the exhaust cam 2-4 degree's
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