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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Injectors for tvs

What is the best injector size for the TVS? i currently am running 60s with a 2.6 pulley, full cooling mods and a trifeta tune. Vince tells me 80s are a pain to tune. I think i am missing way too much power. car is fast but not what i expected from the tvs. i am at 19 degrees of timing. Any help or suggestion is appreciated
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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just get a br fpr then you wont have to tune for bigger injectors

http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1015&catid=174
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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60's are way to small for that pulley,even for a 2.8 there to small
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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injectors are way too small
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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yay!
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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80s or a return style fuel system. Vince is dumb if hes telling you 80s are hard to tune. I went from 60s to 80s and they tuned just fine for gas and e85. He might be too lazy to get them to work too.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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your on e85 though... 80's and pump gas are a little more difficult to get right
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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yay once again i hear vince sucks lol. everyone here in wa keeps telln me to have him tune me but i dont feel like wasting 500$ for a dyno tune if he sucks
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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yay once again i hear vince sucks lol. everyone here in wa keeps telln me to have him tune me but i dont feel like wasting 500$ for a dyno tune if he sucks
Yeah he told me the same thing with my 80s that whys im running so rich he says there so big he cant controller the fuel. Its only 285 btw email tune
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cefaln452
your on e85 though... 80's and pump gas are a little more difficult to get right
WRONG!. Before I tuned for e85 I tuned them for gas so I could switch my tunes back and forth if I needed. They tuned just fine crusing idle and wot.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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I run rich on 60's so not sure what's up with the trifecta tunes. Wonder if the zzp controller would help with trifecta's tune possibilities on 80's
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rossshady120
Yeah he told me the same thing with my 80s that whys im running so rich he says there so big he cant controller the fuel. Its only 285 btw email tune
yeah but i live like 40 min from his shop so why have it emailed to me. im just going to stick with the zzp stae 3 can tune for now
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scotts2.0
I run rich on 60's so not sure what's up with the trifecta tunes. Wonder if the zzp controller would help with trifecta's tune possibilities on 80's
hes not tuning the maf or ve properly then.
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Originally Posted by Sizzle06
60's are way to small for that pulley,even for a 2.8 there to small
ive got my 60's on my 2.8 no problems here even without my meth
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
ive got my 60's on my 2.8 no problems here even without my meth
I'm just stating what Sean told me awhile back when i first bought my tvs.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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I would get 80s because they leave alot of room to grow. They are also safer when you pulley down so you dont have to worry about 100% + IDC.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sizzle06
I'm just stating what Sean told me awhile back when i first bought my tvs.
it also has soo many variables... when guys get to the point of the tvs thier combinations of parts and such differ soo badly and the tunes themselves differ soo much that its really hard to say what works for what cars...

i was just stating that a 2.8 will work with 60's but and this is a big but, youve got to know that you will run out real quick when rpms rise and pulley size goes down
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
it also has soo many variables... when guys get to the point of the tvs thier combinations of parts and such differ soo badly and the tunes themselves differ soo much that its really hard to say what works for what cars...

i was just stating that a 2.8 will work with 60's but and this is a big but, youve got to know that you will run out real quick when rpms rise and pulley size goes down
Very well put
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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roderick, are you running MAF only tune?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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roderick, are you running MAF only tune?
Sure am. Its the only way I roll. Why?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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79's or 80's.

That allows you room to "grow" with the TVS. pulley down.... etc.

60's are "maxed" out on the stock TVS pulley.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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79's or 80's.

That allows you room to "grow" with the TVS. pulley down.... etc.

60's are "maxed" out on the stock TVS pulley.
My 60's were at 76% IDC on stock pulley TVS. I did move to 80's for the hell of it though. Also did the fuel pump rewire. Figured I'd 'solve' any fueling problems before they started...

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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note to file. every car we have tried the fuel pump rewire- the genuineparts on everything including LS s/c says this deal be it kennebell boostapump, racetronix re wire whatever. not worth anything. 2.6 on TVS= bye bye motori
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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What about a 2.7inch pulley on a stock motor with TVS, cause thats what i just ordered along with 80s lol

I dont want to blow it up
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the info John. I hope I'll be OK on the 2.8" then. If I ever decide to run E85, I'll certainly get a return style system...
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