Ok i was jw what the difference is between The Intense stage 3 Kit, and the Revitup Boost upgrade kit was??

Revitup -http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=153

Intense- sorry cant find it.

p.s. sorry if this was a repost

 

heres the link
Intense-https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9903&highlight=270+whp

 

its not working

 

Yes it does Click that

 

So with Intense, theres not am actual kit you can buy, you have to buy everything seperate? is that the only difference?

 

no intense is a kit. the differnce right now is that intense only has stage 3. rev it up is stage one with additions in the near future of 2-4. 2 is going to be like gm stage 2 3 is going to have sum a/f tuner and 4 is a twin chrage kit.

 

MMMMMMMMMMM I <3 Twins!!!

 

Anything is better than stock!

FYI, INTENSE will have more Stage kits coming out soon. It takes a little time to develop and test items. We all know what happens if you get 1 failure out of 100

 

The thread I have been looking for...Except it doesn't help...LOL...Well, from searching I have found nothing bad about either kits, and they both seem to put the same power down. One is plug and play (INTENSE) and the other (Rev It Up) you have to soldier into the harness, but they offer a better piggy back...

 

Why did they start with a Stage 3 kit? Are the new kits going to be 1 and 2 or are they just jumping right into Stage 4.

 

because stage 3 sounds faster then stage 1.
Joe

 

Ok this helps a little thanks, i like the plug and play better

 

Well currently the way the base RevIt Up kit works is by using the stock injectors and not modifying the MAF but adjusting the MAP sensor to get the targeted aif fuel ratio. This is good enough to run a 2.8 pulley and that is about it. Much mods after this and you will start to run really lean. You will still run a bit lean at the last few hundred RPMs but it is not detrimental. The RevIt Up setup does have a good upgrade path though. There is a future to this tuner to add more fuel and other options. There will be a fueler rail upgrade that will open up you car to Alot more mods.

The Intense takes a route that has a flaw. They install larger injectors in place of the factory injectors. In order for you to lean out the larger injectors and get the right air fuel ratio you need to pull back on the MAF frequency. In turn this makes the car think it has less load and will result in more ignition timing. Too much ignition timing leads to very bad detonation. There isn't much of an upgrade path thru this setup due to this tuning issue. Also there is noting you can do about that last few hundred RPMs where the factory ECU pulls back boost and fuel.

The only way to get around the lean issue in the last few hundred RPMs is to inject fuel from another set of injectors and compensate for what the factory ones aren't putting out.

RevIt Up is the only solution as of right now.

 

I have the revitup stage 1 and I love it. No tuning and just solder a couple wires was fairly easy if you can color match wires. The stage 1 powerpaq even has a couple extra wires for the next stage. No cel and great power with no tuning. I was going to go with the intense kit, but did not want to go through the trouble of tuning it.

 

Just curious as to where you get the info that a 2.8 is safe with stock injectors??????
Did they dyno on a hot humid low baro day or what?

I dyno tested mine, BONE stock except for the 3.0 pulley, i hit 13.4 afr at 6500rpm It was 30degrees, high baro and low humidity, which = more fuel demand.

It's a good thing they built these little engines fairly strong as otherwise there would be ALLOT of people blowing them up!!!! With the bad advice going around here.

 

That is because you dynoed BONE stock except for the pulley. RevItUP is NOT bone stock. They are modifying several sensors to get a richer mixture. What bad advise are you talking about? I hope you are referring to me.

 

With all of this talk, it is hard to tell, which one to go with....I'm still sided with INTENSE I think, I just really like plug and play... Tuning I can deal with since my car isn't my daily driver......

 

You have an 2006. If you have 2005 it's a different calibration as far as some of us can tell.

I don't come anywhere close to 13.4 with a 3.0 pulley, I am still like 12.5 at the very highest.

I am going to be modifying both the MAP and MAF. I will be adding to the MAF singal (stock injectors) and pulling the MAP down to look like stock levels. Hopefully I should get some timing back with that. I am already added to the MAF about 4-7 percent depending on the load sites.

Thats my weekend project.

And I know to watch for knock, I have a scanner, I have a knock light, I have an AFR gauge. DTEC-FC rules

 

I'm with you on that. Good thing it is still winter here or I'd have spent my money already. There is going to be a lot of good things avalible this spring, I'm going to wait and see what comes out and then make up my mind.

 

The injectors can only support X amount of power, since you can't bump the ful pressure on these due to the returnless set-up, you have to either, A. Increase duty cycle or IPW's, or install bigger injectors. So lets see, i was already lean at 13.4, my IPW's were at 110%+ so were is there ANYWHERE to fool the fuel supply system. There isn't!! Unless you are hiding something. Map clamp, MAFFT's, gidgets and gadgets CAN'T overcome an injector already maxed out period!

As for referring to you? If the shoe fits, then i guess you're wearing it?? Telling people they can run a 2.8 on a stock fuel system and be safe is ludricrous at best!! UNLESS you are changing the fuel delievery set-up

 

What is your IPW's and Injector duty cycle?? ANYTHING over 20ms at 6K and above is MAXED!

 

92-98% duty cycle. I monitor then with the DTEC mostly. It does the math based on RPM.

I do monitor the IPW with the interceptor however.

I am definetly not saying bigger injectors won't give you more fuel, what I am say is I run a 3 inch pulley with a K&N and 3 inch cat back and I am not going lean according to my AFR readings.

 

Is that thru all 3 gears? I bet by the top of 3rd you are fubar'd!

Trust me, from a very very reliable source, plus verified by my data, stock injectors are close to MAX on a STOCK engine, WHY would gm put injectors in the upgrade if they weren't?????

 

we won't need to be doing all this crap if we had the correct access to the fuel maps..

 

Access will come, just hold your horses.