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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Jbp Header Or Stage 2???????

I DONT KNOW Header is bad as fukkkk and stage 2 adds way more power.. What to do
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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buy the header, you can make your own stage 2 kit later for alot less than the header. and the header right now through the group buy is pretty cheap so dont pass it up.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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yea dude and go ott stage 1 not gm stage 2
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Only reason going for stage 2 is because of the warrenty... Crate Engine Depot Stage 2=585 or JBP header=409
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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I would go with the stage 2. More hp. Ott stage 1 kit you would need cooling mods as well. so more $$$$
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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warranty^^^^ psssh gay lol yea if i guess gm stage 2 is good if you wanna keep ur warranty but thats about it
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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yes it is gayyyyy... I wanna be able to sell it no problem... This is my show toy
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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why are u getting a jbp header if u wanna stay under warranty???
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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that non related to pcm bullshit so in therory it wont matter... Thats like saying **** i shouldn't put bridgestones on because the car came with perilius
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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lol good call
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Yeah having an audi S3 they are very pickey with pcm ****
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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yea but with the header, dealerships can be dicks and void the warranty just cuz of the aftermarket header. well anyways, you can make ur own stage 2 kit for alot less. just get the injectors and the pulley that the stage 2 kit comes with off of someone that is selling em. its alot cheaper this way and you can always go get ur car tuned at the dealership.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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this is true... Im still trying to figure out if I do that and install it will it still be covered... cause i dont like stealerships trying to take a supercharger off and making things to smash the pulley off with... Well i have KANDN CAI and Magna catback... my dealer is pretty cool cause we do all the car audio and **** for them and they like to hop up their stuff ... I just rather do it ya know?

i wonder if this header is cracked up to what people have been saying... i love the sound of an equal lenght header

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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this is true... Im still trying to figure out if I do that and install it will it still be covered... cause i dont like stealerships trying to take a supercharger off and making things to smash the pulley off with... Well i have KANDN CAI and Magna catback... my dealer is pretty cool cause we do all the car audio and **** for them and they like to hop up their stuff ... I just rather do it ya know?

i wonder if this header is cracked up to what people have been saying... i love the sound of an equal lenght header
yea i get ya, and idk but ill find out soon my header should be here in a couple days hopefully. and if im not mistaken its an unequal length header, which is why it sounds like that.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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nah it is a equal length header and thats why it make that sound.. cuz the exhaust gets to form one ata time in the exhaust instead of mixing all up and sounding like a fart
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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nah it is a equal length header and thats why it make that sound.. cuz the exhaust gets to form one ata time in the exhaust instead of mixing all up and sounding like a fart
wrong dude its unequal thats why subarus have that nice boxer grumble..unequal length headers create a more broke up and grumbly sound...do your research...i used to have a subaru and everyone bought unequal length headers....equal length yeild more power but imo dont sound as good if its on a 4 cylinder engine.....and the exhaust doesnt form it just flows and joins together at different time....research
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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why does weapon r and jbp show there primaries being the same lenght?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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are u sure you arent looking at the size of the primaries (1.75)? most headers dont compare lengths...

anyway... you wont notice as much of a gain with the headers if you dont have a stage 2 first...
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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yea look at the #4 and #2 primary on the jbp header...they are no where near the same length and noone here has experience with the weapon r and from the videos on youtube it is way to thin of material cuz it gets hella red from heat...maybe the weapon r header is equal length but the jbp is not and nowhere on there webiste does it say it is equal length
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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I see.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by revolution607@yahoo.
yea but with the header, dealerships can be dicks and void the warranty just cuz of the aftermarket header. well anyways, you can make ur own stage 2 kit for alot less. just get the injectors and the pulley that the stage 2 kit comes with off of someone that is selling em. its alot cheaper this way and you can always go get ur car tuned at the dealership.
they could try to do that, but you can fight it, and you WILL win.

Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. prohibits a dealer from voiding your warranty simply because you have modifications to your vehicle. It is the Dealerships responsibility to prove that any modification was the reason for a failure.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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and the truth shalt set us free!!! ^^^^
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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To be honest. Neither is a good first power mod. When it comes down to it that header isn't going to get you a noticeable amount more power than one half the price. So, scratch that idea.

As for stage 2. You need to have it installed by a dealer to keep your warranty. So, stage 2 is 800 plus 400 for install. For that you could buy injectors, a pully, hptuners and a laptop to tune. Then you have more power than stage 2.
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