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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Just a cool thought....

this is just a thoughtand Im here just to see if something like this would work so No one flame,

I read some were on here that you can use mobil 1 5w30 fully synthetic oil for the supercharger oil, not sure if this is correct or not, but! if it is would it be a good idea/project to tap off some pressureized oil drill and tap into the gear secotion of the supercharger, drill and tap it out and run the return to the oil pan, and regulate it some how if neseccary, kind of like a turbo, I know for guys like me with the small pulleys and such we have to change the oil more often then you would stock,

so my questions are

can the mobil 1 5w30 fully synthetic be used in the supercahrger?

and if soo would haveing pressurized constent feed oil a good idea?

just think it gets changed everytime you change your oil and I change mine ever like 2500 miles or once every few weeks at the most,

please NO FLAMING !!! justa thought and if you all think its a good idea ill be the first to experiment with it I have the tools and money for this soo.

lets see what yall think, I have no idea if this is good or bad soo please be nice,

shane
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Your idea means well, but think about it in a practical sense.

What are you going to gain? The blower will already last as long as the car or longer on its current oiling system. Is it really worth spending time, money, complexity, and engine bay room on an external oiling system that will make it last 500,000 miles?

FYI, most centrifugal blowers use exactly the kind of oiling system you're talking about. So in some applications it is nessesary or worth it. I'm guessing because the gear boxes in those see signifcantly higher RPM.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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I don't believe that the m62 uses 5w30, but Intense sells the oil for it so I'm sure you can check their site and find out for sure.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Your idea means well, but think about it in a practical sense.

What are you going to gain? The blower will already last as long as the car or longer on its current oiling system. Is it really worth spending time, money, complexity, and engine bay room on an external oiling system that will make it last 500,000 miles?

FYI, most centrifugal blowers use exactly the kind of oiling system you're talking about. So in some applications it is nessesary or worth it. I'm guessing because the gear boxes in those see signifcantly higher RPM.
yeah thast why I said for people with smaller pulleys beucase I cant even think of how many threads I have read on here about people haveing bearings seize up and things of that nature I figured it could just do some help for people with smaller pulleys, you know

and if wouldnt take that much room at all just the oil feed and return lines
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Oh I had no idea that people had issues with bearings seizing. In that case it probably is a good idea. Make a kit, sell it, get rich.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Oh I had no idea that people had issues with bearings seizing. In that case it probably is a good idea. Make a kit, sell it, get rich.
yeah do a search I see threads of people claim to here the dreaded niose that isent the normal supercharger niose and only to take it to the dealer to find out they have a siezed bearing,

soo it sounds like a good idea or no?

and is the oil the same?

come I want more opinions here! everyone chime in!
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Oh I had no idea that people had issues with bearings seizing. In that case it probably is a good idea. Make a kit, sell it, get rich.
It would be kind of hard to make a kit to oil the bearings seeing as to how they use high heat GREASE .. good luck pumping grease through there tho
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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He said it could possibly work on mobil 1 and someone else in another thread was asking about where to find OIL for the blower. Just keeping the gearbox better cooled and lubed should keep excessive heat from building up on any wear surface.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by beercan
It would be kind of hard to make a kit to oil the bearings seeing as to how they use high heat GREASE .. good luck pumping grease through there tho
maybe I didnt say it clear enough in my first post but I ment that we use oil from the motor.... since its 5w30 full synthetic and its changed every 3000 miles soo....

Originally Posted by AWDstylez
He said it could possibly work on mobil 1 and someone else in another thread was asking about where to find OIL for the blower. Just keeping the gearbox better cooled and lubed should keep excessive heat from building up on any wear surface.
it might even help keep heat down a lil? maybe? haha

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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Definately not charge air heat, but overall blower temp I'm sure would be lower.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Definately not charge air heat, but overall blower temp I'm sure would be lower.
yeah thats what I was thinking instead of the oil just sitting in there getting hotter and hotter, it would have oil flowing through it too keep it lubed (haha) and keep the s/c temps down a lil
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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I dont have all the technical know how but common sense says:

Flowing oil > sitting oil

&

Fresh Oil > old oil
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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yes, soo is the s/c oil the same thing at mobil1 5w30? or close enough to use?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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I wouldnt worry about it.If your that paranoid about the oil,flush it out every 50,000 miles or so.Aslong as your not using a pulley the size of a bottle cap,you shouldnt worry about the bearings seizing up on you,lol.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ptrblkz24
I wouldnt worry about it.If your that paranoid about the oil,flush it out every 50,000 miles or so.Aslong as your not using a pulley the size of a bottle cap,you shouldnt worry about the bearings seizing up on you,lol.
haha, that funny. =)

Im not parraniod, I just thought I had a good idea thats all
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Well I've also heard about using synthetic oil in eaton blowers. I've heard people argue both sides of the story too. As a matter of fact my oil in the blower was VERY VERY low and the only thing I had laying around was used supercharger oil from an m90 and some mobil 1. The mobile one went in (equivilant to over one bottle of the supercharger oil), and I've been running it that way for a couple thousand miles. I'm probably going to be picking up a bottle of supercharger oil for it and removing some of the stuff I put in (if I ever get around to doing it). I don't think it will cause any major problems or anything though. On a side note your idea is pretty cool. It won't be too hard to do. Just put a "t" fitting where the oil pressure sending unit is for the pressure side. Drill/tap a couple fittings into the blower, and drill/tap a hole in the oil pan for the return. The only other concern I would think of is can the seals in the blower handle 40+psi oil. I guess one way to find out!
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blueta
Well I've also heard about using synthetic oil in eaton blowers. I've heard people argue both sides of the story too. As a matter of fact my oil in the blower was VERY VERY low and the only thing I had laying around was used supercharger oil from an m90 and some mobil 1. The mobile one went in (equivilant to over one bottle of the supercharger oil), and I've been running it that way for a couple thousand miles. I'm probably going to be picking up a bottle of supercharger oil for it and removing some of the stuff I put in (if I ever get around to doing it). I don't think it will cause any major problems or anything though. On a side note your idea is pretty cool. It won't be too hard to do. Just put a "t" fitting where the oil pressure sending unit is for the pressure side. Drill/tap a couple fittings into the blower, and drill/tap a hole in the oil pan for the return. The only other concern I would think of is can the seals in the blower handle 40+psi oil. I guess one way to find out!
yeah I didnt even think about that the seals being able to hold the oil presure, cuase I have an oil PSI gauge it tops out at like 125 if Im really on it in high rpms soo....anymore input from anyone would be cool
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