Let’s Speculate! Stage 3
Let’s Speculate! Stage 3
I think this would be a good idea, even though its pointless, so we can get all the performance upgrades on the table. Unless you've been living in a hole the past few months here's information on Stage 1 and Stage 2 for the Cobalt SS S/C 2.0L.
The Stage 1 kit includes higher flow injectors and a new PCM calibration. The injectors give the engine enough fuel to rev higher, and the new engine calibration allows it all to happen by raising the rev limiter to 6700rpm. The new calibration also allows full boost instead of limiting it to a 205hp maximum with the stock PCM.
The Stage 2 adds the same injectors and calibration as Stage 1, but also includes a smaller 79mm supercharger pulley which increases boost by 2psi.
So what could be the next step? Well I think it could be a new cylinder head, with performance cams, adjustable cam gears, valves and valve springs. Quiet possibly a tune as well resetting the rev limiter to 7500RPM's. GM is increasing fuel and air into the Ecotec engine in Stages 1 & 2, so I believe improving where both of those are held up most would be the best logical direction for upgrading. What do you guys think?
The Stage 1 kit includes higher flow injectors and a new PCM calibration. The injectors give the engine enough fuel to rev higher, and the new engine calibration allows it all to happen by raising the rev limiter to 6700rpm. The new calibration also allows full boost instead of limiting it to a 205hp maximum with the stock PCM.
The Stage 2 adds the same injectors and calibration as Stage 1, but also includes a smaller 79mm supercharger pulley which increases boost by 2psi.
So what could be the next step? Well I think it could be a new cylinder head, with performance cams, adjustable cam gears, valves and valve springs. Quiet possibly a tune as well resetting the rev limiter to 7500RPM's. GM is increasing fuel and air into the Ecotec engine in Stages 1 & 2, so I believe improving where both of those are held up most would be the best logical direction for upgrading. What do you guys think?
The GM performance parts article states that LSJ internals are only rated up to 300 horsepower. GM will not take it much farther. All the Cobalt needs is a bigger blower and Injectors and 300 horsepower will come easily.
Originally Posted by UtOhCop
The GM performance parts article states that LSJ internals are only rated up to 300 horsepower. GM will not take it much farther. All the Cobalt needs is a bigger blower and Injectors and 300 horsepower will come easily.
Originally Posted by Waylin22
i will be getting a stage 2 for sure...i may get a stage 3 depending on price. Any ideas of how much these will cost roughly?
They're probably price it around what DCX has for the SRT4 stage upgrades.
S1 = 399
S2 = 999
me personally if i was gm (lol) i would make the stage kits cheap as hell, but then say you voided your warranty with them. hell think about it.... a stage 1 kit, $50 stage 2 kit $150
everyone and their brother would be going to get them and we just saved the company hundreds of thousands in warranty work.
everyone and their brother would be going to get them and we just saved the company hundreds of thousands in warranty work.
Originally Posted by selfinfliction
me personally if i was gm (lol) i would make the stage kits cheap as hell, but then say you voided your warranty with them. hell think about it.... a stage 1 kit, $50 stage 2 kit $150
everyone and their brother would be going to get them and we just saved the company hundreds of thousands in warranty work.
everyone and their brother would be going to get them and we just saved the company hundreds of thousands in warranty work.
I'm definately getting stage 2 with either the fujita or k&n intake, a 3" exhaust, and possible they SCDyne headers or TOG headers. Then i'll be done for performance. Ill move onto some dubs lol jk but a nice pair of 18's, hid's, strobe lights (i like how they look) and maybe the carbon fiber ss hood.
Somebody posted their visit to the Grand AM Cup race in Ohio awhile back. May have been on ******************?
They had the Performance Redline on display, and the guy took a bunch of pictures. He also posted all the stuff he heard from the GM tech on hand.
He was right about stage 1/2, and from what I remember Stage3 was to be nitrous. It was in the pics, the button was where our cruise control is.
We'll have to wait and see.
They had the Performance Redline on display, and the guy took a bunch of pictures. He also posted all the stuff he heard from the GM tech on hand.
He was right about stage 1/2, and from what I remember Stage3 was to be nitrous. It was in the pics, the button was where our cruise control is.
We'll have to wait and see.
Originally Posted by VaMP
I think this would be a good idea, even though its pointless, so we can get all the performance upgrades on the table. Unless you've been living in a hole the past few months here's information on Stage 1 and Stage 2 for the Cobalt SS S/C 2.0L.
The Stage 1 kit includes higher flow injectors and a new PCM calibration. The injectors give the engine enough fuel to rev higher, and the new engine calibration allows it all to happen by raising the rev limiter to 6700rpm. The new calibration also allows full boost instead of limiting it to a 205hp maximum with the stock PCM.
The Stage 2 adds the same injectors and calibration as Stage 1, but also includes a smaller 79mm supercharger pulley which increases boost by 2psi.
So what could be the next step? Well I think it could be a new cylinder head, with performance cams, adjustable cam gears, valves and valve springs. Quiet possibly a tune as well resetting the rev limiter to 7500RPM's. GM is increasing fuel and air into the Ecotec engine in Stages 1 & 2, so I believe improving where both of those are held up most would be the best logical direction for upgrading. What do you guys think?
The Stage 1 kit includes higher flow injectors and a new PCM calibration. The injectors give the engine enough fuel to rev higher, and the new engine calibration allows it all to happen by raising the rev limiter to 6700rpm. The new calibration also allows full boost instead of limiting it to a 205hp maximum with the stock PCM.
The Stage 2 adds the same injectors and calibration as Stage 1, but also includes a smaller 79mm supercharger pulley which increases boost by 2psi.
So what could be the next step? Well I think it could be a new cylinder head, with performance cams, adjustable cam gears, valves and valve springs. Quiet possibly a tune as well resetting the rev limiter to 7500RPM's. GM is increasing fuel and air into the Ecotec engine in Stages 1 & 2, so I believe improving where both of those are held up most would be the best logical direction for upgrading. What do you guys think?
Originally Posted by selfinfliction
me personally if i was gm (lol) i would make the stage kits cheap as hell, but then say you voided your warranty with them. hell think about it.... a stage 1 kit, $50 stage 2 kit $150
everyone and their brother would be going to get them and we just saved the company hundreds of thousands in warranty work.
everyone and their brother would be going to get them and we just saved the company hundreds of thousands in warranty work.
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Originally Posted by UtOhCop
Guys pay 800 dollars for Hid kits and thousands of dollars for body kit's so 399 and 499-599 shouldn't be bad for upgrade kits.
And I know some will say that I should have just bought something else to begin with. Lets just say that I love my cobalt and have since the first time I saw a picture of it, when we bought our Blazer.
Originally Posted by KnightRider7900
wow! that would be realy expensive! oh and a cobalt will never rev past 7000rpms, the motor cant handle high revs and FI.
Originally Posted by gm_sport_compact_performance_build_book
The stock head gasket is part number 24444091 and the head bolts are part number 1518066. The production head bolts are “Torque-to-Yield.” It is important that these bolts are replaced each time they are removed and correctly installed to provide proper head gasket clamp loading. (Fig. 50) Bates Engineering offers an up level stock replacement valve spring (part number ESGV0001) that fits in the stock cylinder head with no modifications. This spring uses production locks and retainers. The springs will increase the production valve train limiting speed to over 7500 RPM.
Originally Posted by VaMP
I think this would be a good idea, even though its pointless, so we can get all the performance upgrades on the table. Unless you've been living in a hole the past few months here's information on Stage 1 and Stage 2 for the Cobalt SS S/C 2.0L.
The Stage 1 kit includes higher flow injectors and a new PCM calibration. The injectors give the engine enough fuel to rev higher, and the new engine calibration allows it all to happen by raising the rev limiter to 6700rpm. The new calibration also allows full boost instead of limiting it to a 205hp maximum with the stock PCM.
The Stage 2 adds the same injectors and calibration as Stage 1, but also includes a smaller 79mm supercharger pulley which increases boost by 2psi.
The Stage 1 kit includes higher flow injectors and a new PCM calibration. The injectors give the engine enough fuel to rev higher, and the new engine calibration allows it all to happen by raising the rev limiter to 6700rpm. The new calibration also allows full boost instead of limiting it to a 205hp maximum with the stock PCM.
The Stage 2 adds the same injectors and calibration as Stage 1, but also includes a smaller 79mm supercharger pulley which increases boost by 2psi.
Originally Posted by philco_3
I read that same article. I cant wait for the Stages to finally come out. I still have yet to buy a CAI because of everyone throwing a code. You would think that GM would come out with their own CAI that would work w/o throwing a code.
Originally Posted by ExHondaMan
I would just wait and get your CAI after or when you get the stage kit... Im positive they are going to make the PCMs fault logic much more relaxed with the tune... I think that will eliminate everyones CEL problems.... Also though.... it seems like a lot of peoples CEL have just come from disconnecting the battery...


