Let’s Speculate! Stage 3
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From: Fort Collins, CO
Originally Posted by VaMP
So what could be the next step? Well I think it could be a new cylinder head, with performance cams, adjustable cam gears, valves and valve springs.
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From: Al Anbar, Iraq
I'm just glad I don't get back state side till Aug 2006. My new Cobalt SS S/c will be at my house waiting for me on July 28th and so will all my mods!!! Hopefully by then everything will be worked out with the CEL being thrown in the K&N CAI and the stage 2 will be out and I will be a happy camper!!! Muuuhhhhaaaaaa
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From: Rutherford, NJ
Originally Posted by UtOhCop
Those who have the LSD perhaps but the 1 wheel guys will be stuck in the 14's.
Ehh, all we will need extra is slicks or drag radials. That should do the trick for us that are not on lsd, i mean have lsd. I wouldn't say easy though because I, myself, haven't heard of a psi-fi kit in the 13's yet and don't they give the same amount of hp gain if not more than the gm kit?
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From: UNDER YOUR BED
Shouldnt the 0-60mph be around 5.6-5.5 sec? Theoretically speaking if you do the math and all things remain constant in the vehicles performance, a jump from 14.9 to 13.8 (Ive heard 13.7 aswell) is a 1.1 - 1.2 sec decrease in time (approx 7.4% - 8.1% decrease from 1/4 mi). In theory, the 0-60mph should drop 7.4 - 8>1% aswell leaving it at about 5.65 sec to 5.60 sec. In your opinion do you think this theory is valid?
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From: Port Orchard WA
Originally Posted by KnightRider7900
wow! that would be realy expensive! oh and a cobalt will never rev past 7000rpms, the motor cant handle high revs and FI.
Cant handle high revs are you stoned, what do you think powered Nelson Hoyos, Lisa Kubo, and several other eco powered cars ( A highly modded 2.0 eco ) but wait the SS and the RL have 2.0 eco's ????????
BTW I didnt see any honda's or acura's keeping up with them.Dont forget a 2.0 is a destroked 2.2 FOR HIGHER REV'S...
As far as highly modified eco's I should clarify. Per the eco race build book by gm (also is what is involved with hoyos car).
1. stock block slightly prepped (i.e. head studs and opening of oil drain passeges)
2. stock 2.0 crank (since they are already forged)
3. Stock head ( running stock 2.0 SC valves cause they are sodium filled on the exhuast valve or fahera valves) oh ya its ported to.
4. rods and pistons are upgraded (however its speculated to handle up to 350 horse on stock 2.0 SC components)
5. And I almost forgot, 25 psi of boost...
6. many others but if you dont beleive me buy the book or investigate the cars. in other words do your homework before you post....
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From: Rutherford, NJ
Originally Posted by holyavenger69
Shouldnt the 0-60mph be around 5.6-5.5 sec? Theoretically speaking if you do the math and all things remain constant in the vehicles performance, a jump from 14.9 to 13.8 (Ive heard 13.7 aswell) is a 1.1 - 1.2 sec decrease in time (approx 7.4% - 8.1% decrease from 1/4 mi). In theory, the 0-60mph should drop 7.4 - 8>1% aswell leaving it at about 5.65 sec to 5.60 sec. In your opinion do you think this theory is valid?
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From: Iowa
Hahn's turbo sunfire is running over 400whp with a stock bottom end. The car has different rods, pistons, and valve springs, but the 2.0 is supposed to be a bit stronger than the 2.2. I'm guessing the 2.0 could handle 350hp with the right fuel mods. 
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From: Lawrence/K.C
Originally Posted by tsmock
Hahn's turbo sunfire is running over 400whp with a stock bottom end. The car has different rods, pistons, and valve springs, but the 2.0 is supposed to be a bit stronger than the 2.2. I'm guessing the 2.0 could handle 350hp with the right fuel mods.
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From: Herndon, VA
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Originally Posted by holyavenger69
Shouldnt the 0-60mph be around 5.6-5.5 sec? Theoretically speaking if you do the math and all things remain constant in the vehicles performance, a jump from 14.9 to 13.8 (Ive heard 13.7 aswell) is a 1.1 - 1.2 sec decrease in time (approx 7.4% - 8.1% decrease from 1/4 mi). In theory, the 0-60mph should drop 7.4 - 8>1% aswell leaving it at about 5.65 sec to 5.60 sec. In your opinion do you think this theory is valid?
Yes, that would be roughly correct, but the one statment that nulls it, "All things remain constant in the vehicles performance." A cars gearing is what screws this up. So you would have to apply this theory the gear ratio in each different car (I.E: cobalt, neon, enzo) A automatic transmission with precise shifting would more predictable of course.
Whoever said nitrous? BWAHAHA. The day a nitrous kit is offered or recommended by a manufacturer for a staged upgrade, I'll have to pack my bags for Tibet.
I feel like it will consist of exhaust/DP/intake/much more aggresive calibration with the stage 2 mods. But otherwise, tuning is the key to any job. Most recent proof of this is a stock rsx engine making 500whp, and we've had several over 400whp as well. There is even a company makeing a turbo kit for it right now that makes around 368 with the base tune. Anything is possible with the proper tune in place.
But alas, what am I saying?? I'm thinking about trading it in on a SS soon anyways...lol!
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