LOW dyno numbers with the stage kit...
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Originally Posted by SSpartan
every dyno is different
unless these are done on the same dyno the numbers are meaningless.
unless these are done on the same dyno the numbers are meaningless.
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Originally Posted by SSpartan
silverss what are you talking about the stage kits dont do anything?
i had an increase of 31.4 hp and 15.0 ft/bs of trq and have the before and after dyno charts. this was with a very hot car too.
also do you have a baseline before you did the stage kits?
or....
like everybody has been saying somethings wrong with your cat.
i had an increase of 31.4 hp and 15.0 ft/bs of trq and have the before and after dyno charts. this was with a very hot car too.
also do you have a baseline before you did the stage kits?
or....
like everybody has been saying somethings wrong with your cat.
Blackonblack (thread starter) has STG1 nowhere was STG2 mentioned
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Stage 1 still gives you a 7000 rpm redline, thus allowing you to make more before the car's power is limited by redline again. The bigger injectors and tune included with the kit may not yield a big increase in power, but it does increase your power and sets you up for a pulley upgrade for a definate increase in power. His 2.9" pulley should have given him a definate increase in power.
Something is wrong with his cat, and I bet that's the cause of his loss of power.
Something is wrong with his cat, and I bet that's the cause of his loss of power.
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Originally Posted by silverSS
same goes for the STG1 on the SRT-4's. it does nothing, It does the same thing it does for us.
I went from just a CAI and barely being able to hit 14.0x@99 (never being able to trap 100+), to 13.69@102 with JUST S1 + the CAI from before.
I think you'll see 10-15whp at least in both cars, which is noticable and definitely worth it. S1 opens the doors on both cars to other power increasing mods as well.
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I think what Silver is trying to say about the stage 1 Cobalts is that the kit, while giving you the higher redline and *peak* power, the area under the curve hardly changes at all. All that extra horsepower you see is 90% the result of the extra 500 rpm. The smaller pully with stage 2 is what gives you a boost throughout the entire powerband.
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Sorry guys, I didn't get a baseline. My baseline was going to be with the mods I have on now. Then I was going to test the difference with the 3 inch cat back and the header next to see the gains from those two pieces seperatly. The company I am testing these two parts for wants to know the gains from them, so that is really the only reason I am dynoing my car.
And as far as the stage kit reflashes go, I have spoke with numerous gm people and they did say both reflashes are the same. So I should at least be seeing 241hp according to GM.
I am going to try to get the cat replaced this week and re-dyno.
And as far as the stage kit reflashes go, I have spoke with numerous gm people and they did say both reflashes are the same. So I should at least be seeing 241hp according to GM.
I am going to try to get the cat replaced this week and re-dyno.
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Originally Posted by silverSS
the stage kit is not gonna increase power. The kit was overrated. all the kit is good for is to get rid of the CEL lights and give you a base to add some bolt on's.
ask any real racer, any real racer...
ask any real racer, any real racer...
yeah Im wid you on that, ask a racer, ANY REAL RACER. LMAO
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Originally Posted by BlAckOnBLaCK
Hey guys, I have been dynoing my car this month and I can't seem to get past 225hp and 209ft/lbs or torque with the stage 1, 2.9 pulley, and K&N CAI. Now I am getting a p0420 error once and a while which is "catalyst system efficiency below threshold (Bank1)". Do you guys think that is the reason for the low numbers? I dynod with the 3.15 and the max was the same with the 2.9. But, I did gain 15hp throughout the power band. I am just really frusturated that the car is putting out less hp with these mods than some stock cars.
Now I know that all dynos are different but that number seems a bit low. All of my pulls were in third. Any suggestions?????
Now I know that all dynos are different but that number seems a bit low. All of my pulls were in third. Any suggestions?????
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ask any real racer guys..... any real racer. 
hahahahha
so bigger injectors and an ECU reflash is pointless. thx for the info. ... and of course the stage 2 pulley is pointless aswell.
on a serious note: those numbers seem low... but you need to have a baseline b4 u post up anything like this. for all you kno, the car gained 100hp (exagerating). does the car 'feel' faster?
hahahahha
so bigger injectors and an ECU reflash is pointless. thx for the info. ... and of course the stage 2 pulley is pointless aswell.
on a serious note: those numbers seem low... but you need to have a baseline b4 u post up anything like this. for all you kno, the car gained 100hp (exagerating). does the car 'feel' faster?
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Originally Posted by ReMz
ask any real racer guys..... any real racer.
hahahahha
so bigger injectors and an ECU reflash is pointless. thx for the info. ... and of course the stage 2 pulley is pointless aswell.
on a serious note: those numbers seem low... but you need to have a baseline b4 u post up anything like this. for all you kno, the car gained 100hp (exagerating). does the car 'feel' faster?
hahahahha
so bigger injectors and an ECU reflash is pointless. thx for the info. ... and of course the stage 2 pulley is pointless aswell.
on a serious note: those numbers seem low... but you need to have a baseline b4 u post up anything like this. for all you kno, the car gained 100hp (exagerating). does the car 'feel' faster?
The car actually felt a bit faster for a little while but now it seems slower. I know I should of gotten a baseline but I didn't want to spend the money. But I had to dyno the car to test the two products for this manufacture and my so called baseline seemed really low to me. I have a new cat on the way and I hope to see if that was the cause. Who knows.
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