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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Lsj Longblock

So I picked up a used lsj longblock with about 60k on it, I want to swap it in place of my current motor but before i do i wanna check its health. The crank turns freely, the motor has compression, also the intake and exhaust valves look good, also the plugs look good just looks like the motor was running rich, I got a limited view of the bores, looks like carbon and a little rust buildup on the piston tops. I plan on checking the valvetrain for wear or anything unusual. Imo this motor looks like a virgin came with stock green injectors, and the bolts on the intake mani looked like they had never been removed, along with all the other fastners on the motor. Does anyone know some ways to check the motor?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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JUST BUILD IT! this way you can make so much POWER!
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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good advice, but i wanted to use a stock motor with my spring turbo setup, then build my spare for when the stocker fails, turn up the boost, for el oh elz
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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It kind of depends on how much work you wanna do, and what your plans are for the car.

If it's an all out build, then it doesn't really matter what the inside of the motor looks like as you'd be replacing the majority of the internal parts anyway.

If you're just looking at verifying parts, then I would at the very least remove the valve cover and check wear and clearances on the valvetrain. Then a leak down test... check the head bolts to see if they're good, etc... maybe a new headgasket for peace of mind with some new head bolts (or ARP's) and new gaskets all around.

Everybody would have a different idea on how to check it out, but this is what I would do. I think it all has to do with what your plans are for the motor.n If they're mild, then just check what I listed. If they're wild, check nothing because you'll be upgrading it anyway.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Thanks jordan, I really kinda wanna check compression, is there anyway to do that?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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damn....I'd like to get my hands on a complete block and head assembly to start my build.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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Ya this one was dirt cheap, all I had to do was drive 347 miles, well worth it, guy gave me a box full of lsj parts worth atleast the cost of what I was paying, I might try a leakdown test, although I don't suspect valve problems, im gonna try and get a hold of a borescope tomorrow see if I can get a better look at the bores
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 01:16 AM
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frew the best way to check the ccondition of the bores without pullling the head is to do a leakdown test it will show you more then a compression test will
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Frew
Thanks jordan, I really kinda wanna check compression, is there anyway to do that?
Absolutely. In fact I have a compression test kit. But the only thing you need to do is jump the starter and get the motor turning. But...

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frew the best way to check the ccondition of the bores without pullling the head is to do a leakdown test it will show you more then a compression test will
This^
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Thanks guys, I think I will pick up a leak down tester from harbor freight today, I was told i could use an impact wrench to turn the crank for a compression test, I would this this would not be a good idea?
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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dont use an impact gun, it wont turn the motor over, itll just tighten the crank bolt till it breaks. to do a compression test you will need a starter to crank it over with. this is why a leak down test is being recommended.
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dont use an impact gun, it wont turn the motor over, itll just tighten the crank bolt till it breaks. to do a compression test you will need a starter to crank it over with. this is why a leak down test is being recommended.
i doubt very seriously that it would break the the balancer bolt but i dont think it would turn the engine over fast enough here is some good info for ya frew read nad enjoy

How to do Cylinder Leak Down Testing- Car Craft Magazine
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Update, did the leakdown test, cylinder #1 awesome 2% loss through the crankcase, cylinder 2-4 15% loss through the intake valves. It was odd, I could get the intake valves to seal but i had to go past TDC, hrmmmm. So i decide to take the valve cover off to inspect the valvetrain, everything looks good, normal wear. Then i get to the timing chain and its on backwards.......so the green mark is on the exhaust cam and the red is on the intake, and they are both off time by 7 links. So looks like next weekend I am tearing this thing apart to inspect for damage, I dont suspect any contact of valve to piston because i can get all 16 valves to seal by rotating the crank so maybe the motor wasnt ran this way, but we will see....
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Now THAT is interesting...

GL man, get ahold of me if you need to.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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VERY, thanks man, I appreciate it. Fran and I are going to pull it apart and see whats going on.
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Need a new engine as we don't know what the problem is.
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Originally Posted by Frew
So I picked up a used lsj longblock with about 60k on it, I want to swap it in place of my current motor but before i do i wanna check its health. The crank turns freely, the motor has compression, also the intake and exhaust valves look good, also the plugs look good just looks like the motor was running rich, I got a limited view of the bores, looks like carbon and a little rust buildup on the piston tops. I plan on checking the valvetrain for wear or anything unusual. Imo this motor looks like a virgin came with stock green injectors, and the bolts on the intake mani looked like they had never been removed, along with all the other fastners on the motor. Does anyone know some ways to check the motor?
since its out of the car, tear it up. get it magna flux and check the moving parts clean polish...
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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if u swap that one for the one in ur car ill buy the other motor off of you. Im from Pittsburgh so i could pick it up and would pay a pretty good price.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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if u swap that one for the one in ur car ill buy the other motor off of you. Im from Pittsburgh so i could pick it up and would pay a pretty good price.
I have a complete block minus rotating assembly if you would like... Comes with everything from the block to the oil pan except crank, rods, pistons.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnigear
since its out of the car, tear it up. get it magna flux and check the moving parts clean polish...
u cant mag alluminum
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Originally Posted by Tennpenn83
I have a complete block minus rotating assembly if you would like... Comes with everything from the block to the oil pan except crank, rods, pistons.
its not a complete block if it dosent have a rotating assembly in it it would be called a bare block
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
u cant mag alluminum
how can u not magnaflux aluminum? i kno its not magnetic but the iron and magnet that they use are.
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Originally Posted by Omnigear
how can u not magnaflux aluminum? i kno its not magnetic but the iron and magnet that they use are.
because the the metal has to have magnetic properties for the magnet and the special powder you use to do its job alluminum is done by a zyglo process with a dye and a light

http://www.ehow.com/how_6878251_chec...ds-cracks.html
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
its not a complete block if it dosent have a rotating assembly in it it would be called a bare block
A bare block is a bare block, nothing else.

This has oilpan, timing cover, oil pump, oil cooler, balance shafts, timing chain, waterpump/balance shaft chaing, all chain guides, water pump, thermostat, etc. The only things it doesn't have is the crank, rods, pistons.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Other blocks probably not for sale sorry, that's gonna be my built motor and the home for jordans forged pistons he sold me . Probably not gonna get the block inspect except for myself unless there is visible damage, was considering getting everything in the bottom end cryoed, I have heard very good thing about it.
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