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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:44 AM
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M62 phenolic spacer.

Wondering if anyone has ever tried this:

M62 Supercharged Phenolic Spacer
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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use the search!!!!

but really short answer is yes people have
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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I did used the search but found threads of people that have been using the manifold to head one, not so much the supercharger to manifold one. Just curious to see what kind of results the people have been getting.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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if this is thicker than the stock gasket then you have to consider the bypass, how do you make up the difference in height? you would need to machine a spacer for the bypass and run a second bypass gasket on top of it. the way they have it in the kit seems half assed to say the least.

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Get the ZZP M62 spacer. The one you posted looks like a cheap POS
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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the zzp one isnt phenolic, its just a metal plate to allow the install of meth after the blower. it doesnt block the blowers heat from entering the intake manifold.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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use the search!!!!

but really short answer is yes people have
Where is another thread addressing this mod?

if this is thicker than the stock gasket then you have to consider the bypass, how do you make up the difference in height? you would need to machine a spacer for the bypass and run a second bypass gasket on top of it. the way they have it in the kit seems half assed to say the least.
Agreed Though click the link under the description. It shows a spacer for the bypass in the install and testing. And the results look pretty good.


Product Review: O.E.M. phenolic m62 spacer - Boost Forum - j-body.org - the jbody organization

Get the ZZP M62 spacer. The one you posted looks like a cheap POS
Metals are great conductors of heat. Using another piece of aluminum would simply not address heat transfer issues. How does that look cheap?

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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the idea of using black rtv as a gasket in a system under boost gives me the *******. the zzp spacer has an inlaid oring and looks legit, a disk of phenolic material with nothing to keep it in place makes my skin crawl.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 11:25 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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what i want to see is a seperate cooler kit for the blower itself. a couple of fittings, a small cooling radiator with a electric fan, maybe a reservoir of fluid with a electric pump. something to help make the blower more durable and keep it cooler. putting a spacer like this eliminates the blowers heat sink, at that point the blower will run significantly hotter. if you have a phenolic spacer between the intake and head youve already isolated the system, at that point the blower is the only source of heat, heat that will shorted the blowers life if not removed and the intercooler in the intake is the only way heat is pulled out of that system, if the blower is isolated from that one cooling course then whats left to keep the blower and its fluid cool? i might have to pull a spare one apart and rig up a kit for it. colder blowers make colder temps and live forever! sound like a good sales pitch?
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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your over thinking things
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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ECOtec Phenolic Head Spacer
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zfissette
the idea of using black rtv as a gasket in a system under boost gives me the *******. the zzp spacer has an inlaid oring and looks legit, a disk of phenolic material with nothing to keep it in place makes my skin crawl.
Ha I'd be hesitant to use the product as well. If it was refined I would be tempted to purchase it.

what i want to see is a seperate cooler kit for the blower itself. a couple of fittings, a small cooling radiator with a electric fan, maybe a reservoir of fluid with a electric pump. something to help make the blower more durable and keep it cooler. putting a spacer like this eliminates the blowers heat sink, at that point the blower will run significantly hotter. if you have a phenolic spacer between the intake and head youve already isolated the system, at that point the blower is the only source of heat, heat that will shorted the blowers life if not removed and the intercooler in the intake is the only way heat is pulled out of that system, if the blower is isolated from that one cooling course then whats left to keep the blower and its fluid cool? i might have to pull a spare one apart and rig up a kit for it. colder blowers make colder temps and live forever! sound like a good sales pitch?
I understand your thought on this and it makes sense, but I don't see the intake manifold as being a very good heat sink for the supercharger. Airflow is the primary cooling of the SC. The air becomes much hotter after going through the supercharger because it is pulling a lot of heat from it. The IM then cools the air back down. By isolating the SC and IM, I think the IM would be more efficient at cooling the air because it is not soaking heat from the SC. The SC temps are shown to be lower with the testing of the phenolic spacer, which shows the SC and IM can dissipate heat more effectively if they are isolated.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
I purchased ZZPs for $100. It comes with the gasket and hardware to bolt up to the LSJ. This would be a better option for someone with a SC LE5 since the hardware is slightly different. I had to buy another $10 bucks in bolts/spacers to install it properly on my LE5(as have others).
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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im interested in this idea, obviously a cooler intake manifold is a good thing, to be honest i just want zzp to make it and for it to be as professional as their intake to head spacer. i want a bypass spacer that doesnt make me nervous just looking at it. i strongly doubt the small contact point of the bypass warrants any phenolic material at all. its most rubber gasket and a tiny amount of metal to metal contact. it would seem better to just have a metal spacer with a real seal, oring or rubber.
then of course, ill whip up my sc cooler kit and reap the negligible gains that come with it, mauhahaha. hey if i make one more horsepower because of it ill do a little dance in celebration. then of course the wild claims of running 2.1 inch pulleys for 400,000 miles without even changing the oil in the sc >.>
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hhrfreek
I purchased ZZPs for $100. It comes with the gasket and hardware to bolt up to the LSJ. This would be a better option for someone with a SC LE5 since the hardware is slightly different. I had to buy another $10 bucks in bolts/spacers to install it properly on my LE5(as have others).
yeah, i would get the zzp also, just posting it up
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zfissette
im interested in this idea, obviously a cooler intake manifold is a good thing, to be honest i just want zzp to make it and for it to be as professional as their intake to head spacer. i want a bypass spacer that doesnt make me nervous just looking at it. i strongly doubt the small contact point of the bypass warrants any phenolic material at all. its most rubber gasket and a tiny amount of metal to metal contact. it would seem better to just have a metal spacer with a real seal, oring or rubber.
I agree. If ZZP produced it the quality would be superior, thoroughly tested and brought to us in a kit so we wouldn't have to fart around getting another gasket/o-ring and longer SC to IM bolts.

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then of course, ill whip up my sc cooler kit and reap the negligible gains that come with it, mauhahaha. hey if i make one more horsepower because of it ill do a little dance in celebration. then of course the wild claims of running 2.1 inch pulleys for 400,000 miles without even changing the oil in the sc >.>
You know I am going to be very bored this winter maybe I'll beat you to it!
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmc007
I did used the search but found threads of people that have been using the manifold to head one, not so much the supercharger to manifold one. Just curious to see what kind of results the people have been getting.
sorry my fault, i was thinking the other one too.
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