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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Okay, To get things out of the way, I've tried searching on multipul occassions and never found exactly what I was looking for

So to get on to it, I'm curious as to wat a safe max rpm Is for the LSJ, I know we could bennifit from the higher rpms, since its a supercharger And we have to use gearing to our advantage ( shifting from one gear to the next will return the rpms to max tourque kinda like a honda)

I've seen options of 7000-7400 on zzp But I'm more curious about reliability. If i recall correctly I think GMS2 is 7000? And GMS3 is adjustable But not sure what to.

Another quick question, If valve springs were upgraded new max rpm would be? That's if the stock oil pump can take it ( my focus would need a new pump to run must past stock )
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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most people stick around 6500 to 7200 on the max rpm. you can go higher with valves and cams. there is a thread on here with ryan at zzp takes his car to 8000 redline but he is fully built and turboed.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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you dont need cams so much as nbs would be very benificail and springs and more a tuned
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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max rpm on the LSJ pcm is 8125. to rev that high you need a valvetrain that will support it, and either neutral balance shafts or in my case my whole engine is balanced and i run balance shaft deletes. my cams are also capable of making power to 9000+ stock cams arent good for any sort of power benifits at these rpms.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Non built head 7k-7200 possivly even 7500 but less reliable with a stock head. Built head 7500-8000
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:19 PM
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For awesome info.

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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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Yeah i had my rev set to 8k when i had valve springs on my lsj. . Only issue was lash adjusters
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by StevesBlack06
max rpm on the LSJ pcm is 8125. to rev that high you need a valvetrain that will support it, and either neutral balance shafts or in my case my whole engine is balanced and i run balance shaft deletes. my cams are also capable of making power to 9000+ stock cams arent good for any sort of power benifits at these rpms.
actually its 8192RPM

stock long block not recommended for anything over 7500. Also not recommended to stay at that high an rpm more than long enough to touch it before a shift. However, if you want to play it safe, 7200 and you wont have to worry about it. To safely run higher RPMs its recommended to get either Neutral Balance Shafts, or a Balance Shaft Delete Kit, and at least 78lb valve springs and you can rev til the pcm limits if you want. A full valve train is never a bad idea though if you are going to be revving that high, esp often.

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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Yeah i had my rev set to 8k when i had valve springs on my lsj. . Only issue was lash adjusters
now did you have a tvs or m62, if you had an m62 what size pulley did you have?
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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Had ported and i mean ported and polished m62 done by me and 2.6 yep yep.... I was also a built bottom end as well.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 12:18 AM
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I have always reved to 7250 rpm. Well, that's my limiter. I usually shift around 7100 rpm to avoid bumping it.

Although many have done it w/o issue, I wouldnt recommend reving much past 7250 rpm on the stock valve springs. I may be going the route of building up my valvetrain & engine components to handle higher rpms (78lb springs & NB shafts) in the near future.

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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
actually its 8192RPM

stock long block not recommended for anything over 7500. Also not recommended to stay at that high an rpm more than long enough to touch it before a shift. However, if you want to play it safe, 7200 and you wont have to worry about it. To safely run higher RPMs its recommended to get either Neutral Balance Shafts, or a Balance Shaft Delete Kit, and at least 78lb valve springs and you can rev til the pcm limits if you want. A full valve train is never a bad idea though if you are going to be revving that high, esp often.
Thanks for the correction
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Yeah i had my rev set to 8k when i had valve springs on my lsj. . Only issue was lash adjusters
Zzp spins 10000 rpms on factory lash adjusters. Needing solid liters is just a myth. I've been down that road. Not pretty lemme tell ya
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I have always reved to 7250 rpm. Well, that's my limiter. I usually shift around 7100 rpm to avoid bumping it.

Although many have done it w/o issue, I wouldnt recommend reving much past 7250 rpm on the stock valve springs. I may be going the route of building up my valvetrain & engine components to handle higher rpms (78lb springs & NB shafts) in the near future.
same here
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Well ive reved to 8k amd broke quite a few lash adjusters...... And i stocked up on em lol.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Well ive reved to 8k amd broke quite a few lash adjusters...... And i stocked up on em lol.
then you have an underlying issue... what valve springs and retainers are you using?
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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was using zzp 78 and retainers.... I no longer own thr lsj but i want it back lol
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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I rev mine to 7200 as well on a stock head. No issues so far so time will tell.

Almost hope mine breaks so i can replace it with a built new one.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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I rev to 9200rpms.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by D1sclaimer
I rev to 9200rpms.
on what engine?


there is a way around the pcm limited 8192 so you can rev like 9-10k rpm but you have to modify the VSS or something iirc
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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are rod bolts/rod bearings/main bearings a factor here?
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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sorry to bring up such an old thread but I have NBS deletes and 82# valve springs. I know the stock cams are much good past 7200 so that is where I will stay for now but no one has touched on the ati balancer and keyway longevity issues.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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im buildin a 8000+ rpm 2.4 lsj cant wait.
solid lash adjusters also add lift cuz u have no cushioning affect in the valve train..
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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solid lash adj do not add lift they will actually take away lift and duration
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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how so i figured since the lash adjuster acts as a cushion it would absorb some of the cams lift...
with solids u only have lets say .008-.010 of lift loss cuz of the clearence u need there.

thats the way i see it lol
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