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Old 04-14-2008, 12:57 AM
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Melted Piston Pictures

Post em if ya got em!!!

Wish I had the pics of mine
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thats what happens when you push the boost up on stock 2.2l pistons. it was a motor in a buddys sunbird (2.2l ecotec swapped in and boosted). wasnt that much boost though, however the car was pushing some good power. now i know it looks like it detonated to hell and beyond, but thats not the case. 2.2l have the top ring very close to the top of the piston, and throw some boost at them and they break the top of the ring land off, it along with the ring bounce around beating the hell out of the piston and combustion chamber.
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Wish I had the pics of mine
Don't worry, you can make some more soon with the new blower.
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It didn't melt, but it got hot enough for the piston to break (what cast pistons are infamous for). The new forged is next to it

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Don't worry, you can make some more soon with the new blower.
If that blower can melt my diamonds I might need cylinder sleeves made of uranium next time.
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
If that blower can melt my diamonds I might need cylinder sleeves made of uranium next time.
diamonds good ur safe
Old 04-14-2008, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
diamonds good ur safe
Stop stalking me!!

I'll give you my lunch money!
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
It didn't melt, but it got hot enough for the piston to break (what cast pistons are infamous for). The new forged is next to it

Haha, I love how Ford churches it up and calls it "Hyper Eutectic", then I took a materials science class and learned what the eutectic line actually was. What a fancy way to say cast!
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Originally Posted by nghisus
then I took a materials science class and learned what the eutectic line actually was. What a fancy way to say cast!
It's not so much the heating process... as it is the cooling process that defines how the metal's molecules align.
But with anything... there are many variables in metallurgy.
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Originally Posted by nghisus
Haha, I love how Ford churches it up and calls it "Hyper Eutectic", then I took a materials science class and learned what the eutectic line actually was. What a fancy way to say cast!
Actually "Hypereutectic" is different than "Eutectic."

Hyper means over so instead of just 2 elements being bonded together the addition of another one makes it "Hyper" in the case of a "Hypereutectic" piston the addition would be silicon.

And I don't know where Ford comes into play here.
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it's a addition of a certain percentage of silicon.
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Actually "Hypereutectic" is different than "Eutectic."

Hyper means over so instead of just 2 elements being bonded together the addition of another one makes it "Hyper" in the case of a "Hypereutectic" piston the addition would be silicon.

And I don't know where Ford comes into play here.
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it's a addition of a certain percentage of silicon.
Yeah, normal cast pistons usually contain 5-6% silicon, hyper eutectic piston usually contain ~8%, and forged usually have 10-12%. Just the fact that cast pistons are molten aluminum poured into a mold, and forged is an aluminum cylinder that gets basically smashed into shape, makes me lean towards forged

Also, yeah. Ford usually uses forged pistons in their cars. Thats why the Cobra motors can make 800+ rwhp on stock internals
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Hyper-you-break-it... that's what it really stands for lol
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Yeah, normal cast pistons usually contain 5-6% silicon, hyper eutectic piston usually contain ~8%, and forged usually have 10-12%. Just the fact that cast pistons are molten aluminum poured into a mold, and forged is an aluminum cylinder that gets basically smashed into shape, makes me lean towards forged

Also, yeah. Ford usually uses forged pistons in their cars. Thats why the Cobra motors can make 800+ rwhp on stock internals
There's the eutectic line on the metal's phase diagram and depending on whether you cool it above that line makes it "hyper" and also the composition is a dictating factor as well (carbon, silicon content, etc.)

The forged pistons and rods in the Terminator Cobras you mention are actually Manley rods and pistons I believe. They DO NOT use the same pistons in the regular Mustangs. I believe the use it in their forced induction engines such as the Lightning (which I have) and the GT.


I don't know about you but the first time I heard "Hypereurtectic piston" I was reading an issue of MM&FF.
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
Hyper-you-break-it... that's what it really stands for lol
I almost gave you props on that one, but it was more cheezy than something my dad would say. I can not give you kudos on that one

Originally Posted by nghisus
There's the eutectic line on the metal's phase diagram and depending on whether you cool it above that line makes it "hyper".

The forged pistons and rods in the Terminator Cobras you mention are actually Manley rods and pistons I believe.
Don't forget the forged crank too

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Old 04-14-2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
I almost gave you props on that one, but it was more cheezy than something my dad would say. I can not give you kudos on that one :lol

lol I'm old, whatdaya expect. but seriously, thats what I"ve called em for years
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Don't forget the forged crank too
Most definitely I almost went for a Terminator but on the test drive I thought working the clutch was like being on a leg press.
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03 cobra's had h-beam rods and forged pistons.

our pistons, are over 12%

ford has used them a lot
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Meh, stock stuff will never satisfy me. I'd rather have all custom cryo frozen internals instead
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im doin just fine on stock stuff


the engine does sound like a pissed off buzz saw at 7700
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Originally Posted by Area47
im doin just fine on stock stuff


the engine does sound like a pissed off buzz saw at 7700
Wonder what mine will sound like at 8200???
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even louder?
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Originally Posted by Area47
even louder?
I'd say thats an accurate estimate...
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
If that blower can melt my diamonds I might need cylinder sleeves made of uranium next time.
Jesus man, are you trying to create Nuclear Fission in your LSJ?
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
Jesus man, are you trying to create Nuclear Fission in your LSJ?
nope, just waffles.


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