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Old 10-08-2008, 08:57 AM
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Methanol Injection and Spark Plug Temperature (a Question)

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So, I had my spark plug mishap - https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/one-these-not-like-other-137196/

Anyway, while I was at the part store buying new plugs I had a question come into my head.

Is the colder plug still a good idea once you start spraying methanol? The methanol is raising the octane of the fuel and fighting detonation so do you still need the step colder plugs?

I bought a set of stock temp plugs AND a set of colder plugs while I was there because I couldn't deside!..lol
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I say stay with the step colder it will help since you have raised the cylinder pressure more then stock
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Thanks !

Anybody else have any ideas?
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some copper step ones will do the job just fine
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Appearently I have to talk about Ricers - Mustangs - and CC08 to get more than 2 responses around here..
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We already answered your question, and LSJ said to go with the 2-step colder
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I would honestly just run the 2 step colder so you know that your in the safe zone
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Well.. i was hoping for a response along the lines of.. "I've tried stock plugs with the meth injection and i get "x" amount of knock" or "I went back to stock plugs once I got methanol and it didn't knock at all any more!"

Experiences rather than guesses..

Don't get me wrong I do appreciate the input! And I'm running the colder plugs with the "just to be safe" attitude already.. I was just hoping somone had logged some pulls one way or the other..
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Eh when you start doing mods with stock plugs that safe zone goes away QUICKLY. So i mean you can prolly more then likely either go to the fact of saying "hey i am gonna try and run it this way until something blows" OR say "Hey i am running good stuff with little to no issues what so ever"
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I ran my step one colder coppers to the tune of 25 psi and 21* advance and saw no knock. I then went to 28 psi and was knocking so i pulled timing down to 16*. I would suggest staying with step one coppers for a anything on the m62.
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What do you notice between the 3psi compared to the difference in 5* of advancement?
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1 step colder is fine, and no you wont have issues from being to cold with meth spraying.
your m62 heaton will keep things plenty warm
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
What do you notice between the 3psi compared to the difference in 5* of advancement?
1 whp literally that was at 15.5* advance
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these cars love their timing
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yeah i know my friend every degree i added on 25 psi was about 3.5 hp
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So really... there was no point in upping the boost because you had to dumb down the engine anyway?

Thats kinda what im understanding.. i think.....
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heat/knock/poor flowing intake and head were all part of that eqaution. If the car had still be together and recieved a nice flowing head pissing the carand intake it would have made some serious power on 25 psi 28 is just pissing it off.
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