My ZZP twincharge build
Thank you!
Last edited by Ryan@zzp; Jun 19, 2009 at 10:40 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
turbo specs? or date when available?
what did the e85 put out for power @ SAE correction? your ~320 is at STD.
was all the tuning / dyno done via e85? or do you have numbers @ SAE correction on pump?
post 141 has some info, but i want to make sure there's no room for misunderstanding.
what did the e85 put out for power @ SAE correction? your ~320 is at STD.
was all the tuning / dyno done via e85? or do you have numbers @ SAE correction on pump?
post 141 has some info, but i want to make sure there's no room for misunderstanding.
turbo specs? or date when available?
what did the e85 put out for power @ SAE correction? your ~320 is at STD.
was all the tuning / dyno done via e85? or do you have numbers @ SAE correction on pump?
post 141 has some info, but i want to make sure there's no room for misunderstanding.
what did the e85 put out for power @ SAE correction? your ~320 is at STD.
was all the tuning / dyno done via e85? or do you have numbers @ SAE correction on pump?
post 141 has some info, but i want to make sure there's no room for misunderstanding.
Post 141 has the answers to your question. I'm not sure why you are asking us questions and then telling us where we already answered them.
293 SAE, 305 STD on the 2.7 pulley.
We pushed it to 304 sae with the 2.7 on e85, then switched to the 2.6 and pushed it to 307 sae, 319 std. The 322 pull was a bit lean at about 9.7:1.
We pushed it to 304 sae with the 2.7 on e85, then switched to the 2.6 and pushed it to 307 sae, 319 std. The 322 pull was a bit lean at about 9.7:1.
Last edited by Matt M; Jun 19, 2009 at 11:21 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
There is no turbo on the car.
Post 141 has the answers to your question. I'm not sure why you are asking us questions and then telling us where we already answered them.
We just drained the tank, filled it with E85, and tuned. Unfortunately, the injectors are too small to run E85 at 60 psi. We had to raise the pressure quite a bit.
Post 141 has the answers to your question. I'm not sure why you are asking us questions and then telling us where we already answered them.
We just drained the tank, filled it with E85, and tuned. Unfortunately, the injectors are too small to run E85 at 60 psi. We had to raise the pressure quite a bit.
How does one go about raising the pressure?
There is no turbo on the car.
Post 141 has the answers to your question. I'm not sure why you are asking us questions and then telling us where we already answered them.
We just drained the tank, filled it with E85, and tuned. Unfortunately, the injectors are too small to run E85 at 60 psi. We had to raise the pressure quite a bit.
Post 141 has the answers to your question. I'm not sure why you are asking us questions and then telling us where we already answered them.
We just drained the tank, filled it with E85, and tuned. Unfortunately, the injectors are too small to run E85 at 60 psi. We had to raise the pressure quite a bit.
ok, i'll try again.
we know there is no turbo on the car, you've made a point of saying that multiple times.
however, that in its self, does not mean you don't have such turbo around. the pictures suggest you do.
thus specs can be taken from it, OR bullseye might have given you a spec sheet, making this exchange of information even easier.
as for the numbers, in post 141 you state the fallowing.
then made 307whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.6 (14whp delta)
you mention a fuel swap several times, I was trying to take an error prone guess work out of reading your post.
what were the numbers @SAE cal of your 322hp pull?
i doubt your tuning skills are adequate enough to sustain a motor as such.
Last edited by 06black; Jun 19, 2009 at 11:47 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
ok e85 have a higher octane but
from my understanding it has lower
thermals from gas or diesel.
keeping the cyl cooler but at lower
therms, does that mean you push more
fuel to get higher result from the loss
of therms?
from my understanding it has lower
thermals from gas or diesel.
keeping the cyl cooler but at lower
therms, does that mean you push more
fuel to get higher result from the loss
of therms?
ok, i'll try again.
we know there is no turbo on the car, you've made a point of saying that multiple times.
however, that in its self, does not mean you don't have such turbo around. the pictures suggest you do.
thus specs can be taken from it, OR bullseye might have given you a spec sheet, making this exchange of information even easier.
as for the numbers, in post 141 you state the fallowing.
so you made 293whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.7
then made 307whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.6 (14whp delta)
you mention a fuel swap several times, I was trying to take an error prone guess work out of reading your post.
what were the numbers @SAE cal of your 322hp pull?
i doubt your tuning skills are adequate enough to sustain a motor as such.
we know there is no turbo on the car, you've made a point of saying that multiple times.
however, that in its self, does not mean you don't have such turbo around. the pictures suggest you do.
thus specs can be taken from it, OR bullseye might have given you a spec sheet, making this exchange of information even easier.
as for the numbers, in post 141 you state the fallowing.
so you made 293whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.7
then made 307whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.6 (14whp delta)
you mention a fuel swap several times, I was trying to take an error prone guess work out of reading your post.
what were the numbers @SAE cal of your 322hp pull?
i doubt your tuning skills are adequate enough to sustain a motor as such.
any answer?
Last edited by HunterKiller89; Jun 19, 2009 at 02:25 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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we will not be releasing that kit yet, sorry.
Last edited by Ryan@zzp; Jun 19, 2009 at 02:58 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
i had asked in post#152 but that dick bag of a coworker jumped my **** detroit style(per post#157)
shame that you work with such people as you seem rather reasonable.
a chart with torque would be nice, as a good understanding of the area under the curve could be had.
the extra octane, yet lower latent heat capacity make for some interesting results on this fuel.
For the lazy people on here that just want the picture up front.
I would love to see a full pull from about 2000rpms all the way to 7200rpms personally. Also, how much timing was being run overall and/or up top on this run? Just curious.
I would love to see a full pull from about 2000rpms all the way to 7200rpms personally. Also, how much timing was being run overall and/or up top on this run? Just curious.
so you made 293whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.7
then made 307whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.6 (14whp delta)
you mention a fuel swap several times, I was trying to take an error prone guess work out of reading your post.
what were the numbers @SAE cal of your 322hp pull?
then made 307whp/unknown torque-no graph on pump gas with a 2.6 (14whp delta)
you mention a fuel swap several times, I was trying to take an error prone guess work out of reading your post.
what were the numbers @SAE cal of your 322hp pull?
293 SAE, 305 STD on the 2.7 pulley.
We pushed it to 304 sae with the 2.7 on e85, then switched to the 2.6 and pushed it to 307 sae, 319 std. The 322 pull was a bit lean at about 9.7:1.
We pushed it to 304 sae with the 2.7 on e85, then switched to the 2.6 and pushed it to 307 sae, 319 std. The 322 pull was a bit lean at about 9.7:1.
Then we switched to E85 and made 307 sae on the 2.7. Switched to std, it made 322, but was lean on that pull. We richened it up and made 319 std.
Our dyno only corrects one way on each pull. You can't make it print a graph in both corrections from 1 dyno pull. However, if you want an estimate, multiply the std number by .965 and you should be pretty close.
"There is no turbo on the car."
and
"Post 141 has the answers to your question. I'm not sure why you are asking us questions and then telling us where we already answered them."
Maybe you were reading into it way more than necessary, but there was nothing that I typed that was all that degrading.
Last edited by Matt M; Jun 19, 2009 at 06:13 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
How is that not impressive on an m62, you must have one of those 350whp tvs powered cars. You do realize that this wasn't on the twincharge setup. I don't think to many people on any of these cobalt forums have made this kind of power on and m62 or at least have proof. I am sure there is a bunch of people that no some one, or had a friend who, or my boy new someone who new someone that made 1000whp on an m62. How much power are you making on your m62? Maybe you can impress me.
also. the 2.7 sae numbers on pump gas are 8 hp short. done with a/c, balance shafts, oem water pump.
That wasn't directed towrard you, if it was I would have put Aera 47 didn't even make that power. Your sensitive, did you not tell the truth about something, or is it because you're not backing your whp with time slips? Your so sensitive
sensative? maybe a bit punchy if anything else. truth being told? yep. if i was going to lie about numbers, they would be a lot higher.



