07MetallicSC

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Recap - been working my tail off to pay off bills to free up money each month. Finally did that. Now i have an extra 300 a month. Now if gas goes up or whatever its meh.

Now. Looking into acquiring parts for a head build over the winter.

All I have currently is GMR neutral balance shafts ( not really head I know but im installing them while the timing chain is off )

Question - how much usually are solid lifter sets?

Question - who would you reccomend for a solid lifter set bates or GMR?

Looking to buy:

GMR Cams
Solid lifters - not sure by who yet
ARP headstuds
Headgasket - OEM or Cosmetic?
New Timing Chain
Timing Chain tensioner v2.0
+1mm valves. Who would you reccomend?
78# valve springs - thinking bates
Race port and polish and headbuild by SMG

Am I missing anything here?

Thank you in advance for any and all advice/help given.

Along with the head build im looking to buy a return style fuel system from OTTP as well.

Then next year? whooommmmm pshhhh

BLAZIN07SS

iTrader: (7)

BLE makes an adjustable set of lifters. any other solid lifters you may purchase will have to be machined.

selfinfliction

**** all the junk, put a turbo on there. you can spend $10,000 installing trinkets everywhere or you can spend 50% of that and get the most power

Tstonee

and eventually blow it up... which is why he's going this route first.

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

this. id rather install this stuff, know the car can safely handle the power and then throw the turbo kit on. ive always done things this way. it may not be needed but id feel better with myself going this route.

plus if i do a turbo build its going to be all out not just a slap on kit

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

machining shouldnt be that bad though. the ble ones require maintenance every so often - tightening if i remember? i could be thinking of someone else though

Omnigear

iTrader: (4)

zzp, ^_^

mrbelvedere

iTrader: (3)

solid lifters arent adjustable you have to set up each lifter to each lobe bates cams suck for 1 reason you have to degree them gmr cams suck for 2 reasons you have to go solid on the lifters and degree them in get rid of the stock balancer it dose nothing for the engine after 6500 rpm go ati for the balancer and go zzp on the cams they are drop in and tune

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

does anyone have proven gains on them? isnt there an issue with some hex key or something? is this fixed with the zzp cams?

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

so your saying instead of gmr cams do zzp cams, and then that will eliminate the need/cost of solid lifters? but keep the rest of my build the same and add an ati balancer to this list?

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

looking on their website the zzp comp cams is the one your reccomending correct? im looking at the stage 2s, your thoughts?

mrbelvedere

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there is a guy running the stg 1 cams from zzp and is making 280hp to the wheels on a m62 and a 2.8 pully and no meth and the hex problem is fixed by zzp

i sure am and the ati balancer will keep from shaking the engine apart above 6500 and i did varify this thru zzp and ati

yes that is the cams thzt are custom made for zzp by comp and as for the size of the cam i would discuss that with zzp the stage 1 cam is a pretty decent jump from stock i have ordered mine from them just waiting on them to arrive

07SportRedSS

iTrader: (4)

ive also heard that gmr cams are no good... i dont know much about them but the zzp cams seem like a better way to go

mrbelvedere

iTrader: (3)

there isent anything wrong with the gmr cams if you have the money to set them up properly

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

280 on a 2.8 with no Meth is nice!

I'm running a 2.7 with Meth currently. I wonder with this plus the build stated above if I could touch 300whp....
I'm currently at 265whp 249 Tq. Its a long way. I doubt it

mrbelvedere

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you never know and look into a lsjion ported head he does good work

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

I'm going to have smg port and do all the work. Thanks tho

Leafydialupking

iTrader: (1)

If you're going to do solid lifters why do neutral balance shafts, should go delete to take advantage of the 8k+ rev ceiling. And if you're going solid lifters why the hell are you getting an off the shelf cam?

07SSYellow

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im an OG

selfinfliction

Really? Cause I know plenty of people who used them for years on a stock engine. Almost every single person that blew their engine was pushing it over 400whp.

The reasons motors blow under turbos is because it's so easy to turn the boost up and disregard common sense

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

im doing nbm because i already have them sitting in front of me.

solid lifters was intended only if i went gmr cam. if i go zzp stage 2 cam i wont do solid lifters.

off the shelf cam because thats what im in the market for.

you young grasshoppa to me lol

Area47