Need some info on ss/sc tuner
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Need some info on ss/sc tuner
ok guys was on ************* and no one knows anything there but then again it took a week for me to post but its in the past
ok picked up a 07 ss/sc cobalt with 43000 miles for 7550 clean tittle too honestly its alot slower then i thought it would be however all these youtube vids are showing it stomping the crap out of former asain tuners ive had with just stage 2. i have 4 friends and i have always had the fastest car but now my friend got a pos 98 mustang gt and it beats me. so i was wondering wat all to do to upgrade it. the gt only has prolly 240hp/310tq
now i got TONS OF QUESTIONS THAT I CANT FIND ANSWERS TOO SO HERE GOES
ok i am looking at custom stages and maybe an intense pcm so i dont have to get it tuned and i can install everything my self
whats the safest pulley size that doesnt need a heat exchanger and what injectors to run
does the gm smaller belt work for all smaller pulleys?
is a heat exchanger hard to install and or manage
is there really a lot of difference between 2.7 to 2.9 or 3.0
problems im having with the car currently
getting really poor gas when supercharger is being used like 15-16
also my check engine light is on cause i dont have a cat how can i shut it off for good
got 2.5 full megan exhaust and it sounds really fart cany
my exhaust rattles pretty bad i dont know what to do about it
i got a cold air intake and the maf is really close the the intake filter and it is messing up my take off i think
also when i launch it i get a lot of tire spin which is what craps my launchs at instense there is a 50% reduced boost in first to get a good launch is that worth it?
ummm im prolly missing something but its 1am and im eating cheese yum yum
thanks for your answers guys hoping people here know something
ok picked up a 07 ss/sc cobalt with 43000 miles for 7550 clean tittle too honestly its alot slower then i thought it would be however all these youtube vids are showing it stomping the crap out of former asain tuners ive had with just stage 2. i have 4 friends and i have always had the fastest car but now my friend got a pos 98 mustang gt and it beats me. so i was wondering wat all to do to upgrade it. the gt only has prolly 240hp/310tq
now i got TONS OF QUESTIONS THAT I CANT FIND ANSWERS TOO SO HERE GOES
ok i am looking at custom stages and maybe an intense pcm so i dont have to get it tuned and i can install everything my self
whats the safest pulley size that doesnt need a heat exchanger and what injectors to run
does the gm smaller belt work for all smaller pulleys?
is a heat exchanger hard to install and or manage
is there really a lot of difference between 2.7 to 2.9 or 3.0
problems im having with the car currently
getting really poor gas when supercharger is being used like 15-16
also my check engine light is on cause i dont have a cat how can i shut it off for good
got 2.5 full megan exhaust and it sounds really fart cany
my exhaust rattles pretty bad i dont know what to do about it
i got a cold air intake and the maf is really close the the intake filter and it is messing up my take off i think
also when i launch it i get a lot of tire spin which is what craps my launchs at instense there is a 50% reduced boost in first to get a good launch is that worth it?
ummm im prolly missing something but its 1am and im eating cheese yum yum
thanks for your answers guys hoping people here know something
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well first off i didnt read the whole thing but i can awnser a couple question.
first with the gas mileage thats normal .
for a stage kit i would recommend ott's stage one its a 2.8 and it comes with 60's i would also recommend a few cooling mods
the gm stage 2 belt works up to a 2.8 pulley.
the cel if i remeber right you can tune out with hp tuners
first with the gas mileage thats normal .
for a stage kit i would recommend ott's stage one its a 2.8 and it comes with 60's i would also recommend a few cooling mods
the gm stage 2 belt works up to a 2.8 pulley.
the cel if i remeber right you can tune out with hp tuners
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whats the safest pulley size that doesnt need a heat exchanger and what injectors to run
i personally wouldn't go below a 3.0" pulley, but you can use whatever injectors you want, but there will be a difference in $$$
does the gm smaller belt work for all smaller pulleys?
believe to a 2.8, but you can get a larger idler pulley if you go smaller than that
is a heat exchanger hard to install and or manage
no
is there really a lot of difference between 2.7 to 2.9 or 3.0
torque mostly. but you'll see a bigger power difference between the 2.7 and 3.0 simply bcause its a larger gap than the 2.9-3.0, like when people complain about how there isn't a fair amount of hp gain when going from a 2.8 to a 2.7...well thats because theres a .5" difference from stock to the 2.8, and only .1" difference from 2.8 to 2.7
problems im having with the car currently
getting really poor gas when supercharger is being used like 15-16
thats cause if the supercharger is on...you're on the gas too hard to worry about mpg. i don't think ive hit 1psi in the past 2-3 weeks
also my check engine light is on cause i dont have a cat how can i shut it off for good
get a catted downpipe with both 02 bungs
got 2.5 full megan exhaust and it sounds really fart cany
sound is due to two things 1, its a megan. and two...you have no cat.
my exhaust rattles pretty bad i dont know what to do about it
replace said rattling exhaust and uncatted downpipe with the hahn downpipe and different 2.5" catback
i got a cold air intake and the maf is really close the the intake filter and it is messing up my take off i think
i don't know of any "good" named companies who put the MAF close enough to the filter for it to make a difference in performance. so i'ld suggest replacing the whole intake with an injen, k&n, or r.a.w.
also when i launch it i get a lot of tire spin which is what craps my launchs at instense there is a 50% reduced boost in first to get a good launch is that worth it?
don't get a canned tune just for boost reduction. once you change around your pulley, injectors, intake, exhaust, etc. get a customized tune from someone thats knowledgable with cobalts and they can fix it there
i personally wouldn't go below a 3.0" pulley, but you can use whatever injectors you want, but there will be a difference in $$$
does the gm smaller belt work for all smaller pulleys?
believe to a 2.8, but you can get a larger idler pulley if you go smaller than that
is a heat exchanger hard to install and or manage
no
is there really a lot of difference between 2.7 to 2.9 or 3.0
torque mostly. but you'll see a bigger power difference between the 2.7 and 3.0 simply bcause its a larger gap than the 2.9-3.0, like when people complain about how there isn't a fair amount of hp gain when going from a 2.8 to a 2.7...well thats because theres a .5" difference from stock to the 2.8, and only .1" difference from 2.8 to 2.7
problems im having with the car currently
getting really poor gas when supercharger is being used like 15-16
thats cause if the supercharger is on...you're on the gas too hard to worry about mpg. i don't think ive hit 1psi in the past 2-3 weeks
also my check engine light is on cause i dont have a cat how can i shut it off for good
get a catted downpipe with both 02 bungs
got 2.5 full megan exhaust and it sounds really fart cany
sound is due to two things 1, its a megan. and two...you have no cat.
my exhaust rattles pretty bad i dont know what to do about it
replace said rattling exhaust and uncatted downpipe with the hahn downpipe and different 2.5" catback
i got a cold air intake and the maf is really close the the intake filter and it is messing up my take off i think
i don't know of any "good" named companies who put the MAF close enough to the filter for it to make a difference in performance. so i'ld suggest replacing the whole intake with an injen, k&n, or r.a.w.
also when i launch it i get a lot of tire spin which is what craps my launchs at instense there is a 50% reduced boost in first to get a good launch is that worth it?
don't get a canned tune just for boost reduction. once you change around your pulley, injectors, intake, exhaust, etc. get a customized tune from someone thats knowledgable with cobalts and they can fix it there
hope that helped a little
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Do not use intense.. please... Because then we will have to post explaining what a blown engine sounds like later on down the road for you.
I used a 2.8 pulley with no h/e... **** there was someone who ran the 2.5 with no heat exchanger... The GM belt will work down to a 2.7 or so... although some people have trouble running the stage 2 pulley... which is just weird..
I used a 2.8 pulley with no h/e... **** there was someone who ran the 2.5 with no heat exchanger... The GM belt will work down to a 2.7 or so... although some people have trouble running the stage 2 pulley... which is just weird..
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how do you install a heat exchanger i think if i knew how that would elminate some of my fears of cooling mods is the heat exchanger all i need? for a 2.8 pulley and i hear there isnt a great difference from 2.8 2.9 and 3.0
looking at the ottp stages cant find info or their home page i hear good things? any bad? better then intesnse
looking at the ottp stages cant find info or their home page i hear good things? any bad? better then intesnse
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well first off. if you can get a custom dyno tune, or street tune....do that.
http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html
theres the link for the tune. but like i said. if you can get a custom dyno tune or street tune. do that first. mail in tune should be your last option.
http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html
theres the link for the tune. but like i said. if you can get a custom dyno tune or street tune. do that first. mail in tune should be your last option.
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ok really looking for a good tuner for pcm is it worth private tuned? or is it better just to get a canned one now intense isnt saying canned ott is i dont really like the way the describe it cause oii is also running 60lbs
is 60lbs better then 42's i know there is more fuel but with the pcm tune will 60s run as smoth as 42's with just a 2.9 or stage 2 pulley? also whats the going rate on some 60's
also i have 225/40 and 245/45 and i wanted to put the 245's in the front do you think the width will rub? has anyone done this also the meat of the tire is a little more will that throw off the car at all really want to know if that will give me a bit better launch and speed gains
also as a add thank your exsoccer you have been helping me out a ton
is 60lbs better then 42's i know there is more fuel but with the pcm tune will 60s run as smoth as 42's with just a 2.9 or stage 2 pulley? also whats the going rate on some 60's
also i have 225/40 and 245/45 and i wanted to put the 245's in the front do you think the width will rub? has anyone done this also the meat of the tire is a little more will that throw off the car at all really want to know if that will give me a bit better launch and speed gains
also as a add thank your exsoccer you have been helping me out a ton
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just get the ott stage 1 and there h/e and get your exhaust fixed and you will fall in love i got my car november 08 and im still learning about these cars but i chill with a good group of guys and i try to learn as much as possible.... now if you need answers (which we are all giving you) call josh from ottp (number is on the website) he will tell you exactly what you need to do.... look at my signature, get that all your complaints are GONE!
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well hows it working for you whats your track time? and did you do the install your self? also it isnt just 350 its more like 500 for all the stuff i want i just wanted there pcm but maybe but i like finding good deals and saving money
also is there somewhere that shows how to install a heat exchanger
also how much hp does ott stage 1 add its like everyone elses stage 3-4 i find that funny
also is there somewhere that shows how to install a heat exchanger
also how much hp does ott stage 1 add its like everyone elses stage 3-4 i find that funny
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Intense is still a canned tune...
60s will give you more head room to work with if you decide to add more power... They do not Add power themselves, they just allow you to make more power... get the 60s...
The idle can be funny when u start using larger injectors.. nothing unbearable though..
And for your cars sake, dont use intense.
60s will give you more head room to work with if you decide to add more power... They do not Add power themselves, they just allow you to make more power... get the 60s...
The idle can be funny when u start using larger injectors.. nothing unbearable though..
And for your cars sake, dont use intense.
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ok really looking for a good tuner for pcm is it worth private tuned? or is it better just to get a canned one now intense isnt saying canned ott is i dont really like the way the describe it cause oii is also running 60lbs
is 60lbs better then 42's i know there is more fuel but with the pcm tune will 60s run as smoth as 42's with just a 2.9 or stage 2 pulley? also whats the going rate on some 60's
also i have 225/40 and 245/45 and i wanted to put the 245's in the front do you think the width will rub? has anyone done this also the meat of the tire is a little more will that throw off the car at all really want to know if that will give me a bit better launch and speed gains
also as a add thank your exsoccer you have been helping me out a ton
is 60lbs better then 42's i know there is more fuel but with the pcm tune will 60s run as smoth as 42's with just a 2.9 or stage 2 pulley? also whats the going rate on some 60's
also i have 225/40 and 245/45 and i wanted to put the 245's in the front do you think the width will rub? has anyone done this also the meat of the tire is a little more will that throw off the car at all really want to know if that will give me a bit better launch and speed gains
also as a add thank your exsoccer you have been helping me out a ton
Getting a custom tune will always be better than a canned tune.
The size of the injectors won't make any difference on idle or driveablility as long as the car is tuned for them. If you are going smaller than a 2.9 pulley you will probably need 60s.
245 width tires will rub when turning, not to mention 245/45 will be way too tall and you will bottom out. Some people have gone as big as a 235/40 and even they will rub occasionally.
ok picked up a 07 ss/sc cobalt with 43000 miles for 7550 clean tittle too honestly its alot slower then i thought it would be however all these youtube vids are showing it stomping the crap out of former asain tuners ive had with just stage 2. i have 4 friends and i have always had the fastest car but now my friend got a pos 98 mustang gt and it beats me. so i was wondering wat all to do to upgrade it. the gt only has prolly 240hp/310tq
7550 for an 07 is pretty cheap... how did you manage to get it as such a low price?
A 98 Mustang GT against a stock cobalt should be pretty close. From a dig the mustang would probably jump you, but from a roll it would probably be a driver's race. I never ran one stock, I did run a 98 GT when I was just stage 2 from a dig and took him by about 6 car lengths, maybe more.
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same here, i have a GM stage 2 with 2.9 pulley! but i really want to go down to 2.7. what extras do i need for this setup to work, besides larger injectors and cooling mods?
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A 98 Mustang GT against a stock cobalt should be pretty close. From a dig the mustang would probably jump you, but from a roll it would probably be a driver's race. I never ran one stock, I did run a 98 GT when I was just stage 2 from a dig and took him by about 6 car lengths, maybe more.
they're hogs until recently now it's about even with the stang edging out your basic stock or st2 car..
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well hows it working for you whats your track time? and did you do the install your self? also it isnt just 350 its more like 500 for all the stuff i want i just wanted there pcm but maybe but i like finding good deals and saving money
also is there somewhere that shows how to install a heat exchanger
also how much hp does ott stage 1 add its like everyone elses stage 3-4 i find that funny
also is there somewhere that shows how to install a heat exchanger
also how much hp does ott stage 1 add its like everyone elses stage 3-4 i find that funny
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well we dont have really got tune shops we have them but there not that great and i really dont want to drive down to phoneix for a tune and im pretty good when i know what to do i had no idea a h/e was a mini radiator
it works by taking out hot fluid to the h/e and the h/e gets more wind flow so it cools faster.
also i think ill get the ott canned tune but everything else i can get cheaper here
with the 60lbs with a good tune should it get ok mpg? or no
also i got that intense tune is trash i was just wondering if they where considered a canned tune as well.
i really wanna hit 300 hp with meth
it works by taking out hot fluid to the h/e and the h/e gets more wind flow so it cools faster.
also i think ill get the ott canned tune but everything else i can get cheaper here
with the 60lbs with a good tune should it get ok mpg? or no
also i got that intense tune is trash i was just wondering if they where considered a canned tune as well.
i really wanna hit 300 hp with meth
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A canned tune is any tune that is sent to you, NOT one that you get at a dyno, or one done using your car. A canned tune includes sending in your computer and having them adjust it...
60s will get same gas as any other injectors. It all depends how much fueling is used in your tune.
60s will get same gas as any other injectors. It all depends how much fueling is used in your tune.
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also just an added problem i live in az and max ac is number 4 what it shoots out is equal to like low on any other car ive owned is there a way to fix this its summer in AZ and 100+ degrees would really like super cold ac
know **** huh mid 13 i like that i wanna hit high 12s cause i think it would be really funny to beat vets camaros sti evos none of which are that fast down here. ithere you buy cheap and poor a tone of upgrades in or buy expensive cars and no upgrades lol
know **** huh mid 13 i like that i wanna hit high 12s cause i think it would be really funny to beat vets camaros sti evos none of which are that fast down here. ithere you buy cheap and poor a tone of upgrades in or buy expensive cars and no upgrades lol
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