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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Nitrous

So here is my stupid thread regarding nitrous

What type of mods are a must before installing this?
https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...=462&catid=174

I would imagine cooling mods for damn sure
a few suspension upgrades as well?
But as far as other mods go I have no clue

/in before fast and furious comments as well by calling it nos....>.>

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/nitrous-oxide-51/

please read those threads. also read the sticky at the top
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Should learn how to search better >.>

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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also get a wet kit. much safer

http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...b97b28f36cc489
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Alright I guess Ill snag a wet kit when I can hopefully damn soon
So from what I'm getting in the other forums is you can run a 35 - 50 shot I should be slightly safe


From what I know when I purchased this car it has 60's 2.8in pully vibrant cat-back
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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I guess you dont know anything about NOS b/c NOS is extrememly cold when sprayed out of the bottle. Its like a meth system "chemical cooling". So you wouldn't need upgraded cooling mods FOR DAMN SURE!
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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I guess you dont know anything about NOS b/c NOS is extrememly cold when sprayed out of the bottle. Its like a meth system "chemical cooling". So you wouldn't need upgraded cooling mods FOR DAMN SURE!
Its for DAMN SURE a better idea to ask a dumb question then blow up my DAMN car
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:13 AM
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Well if ur using NOS the last thing that I would be worrying about blowing up my car would be cooling mods haha
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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Look around for a header. Then with a wet shot you should be able to spray 100.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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oh wow...good bye motor.

GM says the Ecotec can only take about a 50 dry shot of nitrous before it blows up, and wet i personally think its a retarded idea to spray through the intercooler and supercharger, so make sure its a direct port. You should prolly look up what direct port means as well.


Honestly you really need to study up on nitrous before going any further... go read a book or something otherwise your going to break something.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
Look around for a header. Then with a wet shot you should be able to spray 100.
No...

Originally Posted by -Jayson-
oh wow...good bye motor.

GM says the Ecotec can only take about a 50 dry shot of nitrous before it blows up, and wet i personally think its a retarded idea to spray through the intercooler and supercharger, so make sure its a direct port. You should prolly look up what direct port means as well.


Honestly you really need to study up on nitrous before going any further... go read a book or something otherwise your going to break something.
it can take more than 50. i am on a 60 wet shot and i heat up the bottle like hell. and why is spraying through the supercharger stupid. its perfectly fine

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
No...
Grow a set. The motor will handle it. The motor can't tell if it's getting more air from a big snail or N20 it's limits are the same. If you do it right the LSJ will easily take a 100 shot.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
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it can take more than 50. i am on a 60 wet shot and i heat up the bottle like hell. and why is spraying through the supercharger stupid. its perfectly fine
Well i said GM only recommends a 50 DRY shot, a wet shot is an entirely different shot.

The supercharger and intake manifold are not designed to flow gas through them. Gas pools in the bottom of the intake manifold because its shapped like a U with the bottom of the U being before the laminova cores that arent designed to pass liquid through them. There is even a little lip below the last core that liquids can pool in and not ever get passed through the cores. All it takes is for one spark and boom your intake manifold and supercharger are gone. Everytime you spay your wet shot you are getting a pool of gasoline in your intake manifold.

On top of the gasoline pooling this also means you can easily lean out your motor. Unless you actually tuned your wet shot with a wideband, i would worry that you arent getting the proper amount of fuel. Due to the laminova cores stopping it. Now im not sure how much the gasoline will clean the oil that accumulates in your intake manifold and all over the cores, but as someone who has prolly done more work to the intake manifold than 99% of this forum turst me when i tell you that oil does a good job of sticking to the cores a gunking them up. Everytime i have taken the cores out of an intake manifold i had to clean them with brake cleaner.

The supercharger coating on the blades i dont believe stands up very well to gasoline which if its strong enough to clean the grease and oil off my hands, im pretty sure will do some damage to the teflon coating on the blades and possibly clean any grease or oil that it comes in contact with inside the supercharger. Not to mention that if for some unknown reason you have a nitrous backfire you are going to spin the supercharger backwards and prolly destroy it.

So while sure it might be working for you and you might never see a single problem because of it, I personally would never spray a wet shot through the intake manifold and supercharger.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
Grow a set. The motor will handle it. The motor can't tell if it's getting more air from a big snail or N20 it's limits are the same. If you do it right the LSJ will easily take a 100 shot.
sure...maybe with 10* of timing in the car. then it would drive like **** when off spray. and nitrous and boost are completely different. nitrous hits very hard. dont recommend someone to run a 100 shot. i have been running nitrous for quite some time. a 100 shot will kill the car over time.

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Well i said GM only recommends a 50 DRY shot, a wet shot is an entirely different shot.

The supercharger and intake manifold are not designed to flow gas through them. Gas pools in the bottom of the intake manifold because its shapped like a U with the bottom of the U being before the laminova cores that arent designed to pass liquid through them. There is even a little lip below the last core that liquids can pool in and not ever get passed through the cores. All it takes is for one spark and boom your intake manifold and supercharger are gone. Everytime you spay your wet shot you are getting a pool of gasoline in your intake manifold.

On top of the gasoline pooling this also means you can easily lean out your motor. Unless you actually tuned your wet shot with a wideband, i would worry that you arent getting the proper amount of fuel. Due to the laminova cores stopping it. Now im not sure how much the gasoline will clean the oil that accumulates in your intake manifold and all over the cores, but as someone who has prolly done more work to the intake manifold than 99% of this forum turst me when i tell you that oil does a good job of sticking to the cores a gunking them up. Everytime i have taken the cores out of an intake manifold i had to clean them with brake cleaner.

The supercharger coating on the blades i dont believe stands up very well to gasoline which if its strong enough to clean the grease and oil off my hands, im pretty sure will do some damage to the teflon coating on the blades and possibly clean any grease or oil that it comes in contact with inside the supercharger. Not to mention that if for some unknown reason you have a nitrous backfire you are going to spin the supercharger backwards and prolly destroy it.

So while sure it might be working for you and you might never see a single problem because of it, I personally would never spray a wet shot through the intake manifold and supercharger.

this post couldnt be more wrong and im not even gonna ******* answer it. go do your research before you start telling everyone bullshit. i have run 20 bottles through my car on a 60 wet shot and 22* of timing.

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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS




this post couldnt be more wrong and im not even gonna ******* answer it. go do your research before you start telling everyone bullshit. i have run 20 bottles through my car on a 60 wet shot and 22* of timing.
ha what a mature and well written response, nice job with resorting to swearing, i think a 12 year old could have a more mature debate than you.

So get the sand out of your vag, you asked for reasons why I would not run a wet shot through the intake manifold and supercharger and i gave them. They are all very valid concerns.
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Originally Posted by -Jayson-
ha what a mature and well written response, nice job with resorting to swearing, i think a 12 year old could have a more mature debate than you.

So get the sand out of your vag, you asked for reasons why I would not run a wet shot through the intake manifold and supercharger and i gave them. They are all very valid concerns.
except for the fact that the fuel is atomized into such small particles at that point and the velocity, heat, and pressure of air going through the intake manifold would turn it into hydrocarbon vapor. there is not going to be any puddling when the motor is at high rpm. there is a reason you only spray at WOT and over 3,000rpm. the only reason for teflon coating on the SC blades is to quiet down the rotors. i hate it when people post information that is wrong. you act like its pouring fuel down the intake manifold. the nozzle atomizes the fuel and the velocity, heat, and pressure all aid it with vaporization. how do people get away with meth injection being sprayed through the SC? its a high octane fuel, same crap
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