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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Wow those numbers for stage 3 alone are terrible! Something seems wrong, because I've watched numerous Stage 2 Cobalts dyno a lot higher then that on a Mustang dyno.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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It's a dynapack chassis dynometer.
http://haddadmotorsports.com/dyno1.htm

Did you guys see the video?
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Area47 just out of curiousity what seems scary to you about that AFR? It seems pretty safe to me, but I guess the only way to know for sure would be an EGT gauge.

RoelSS have you pulled a plug to see what it looks like after spraying a few times?
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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12.4 is pushing it with one power adder, just seems a little lean on juice.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MTchevy1
Area47 just out of curiousity what seems scary to you about that AFR? It seems pretty safe to me, but I guess the only way to know for sure would be an EGT gauge.

RoelSS have you pulled a plug to see what it looks like after spraying a few times?
No I haven't. I've gone through 3 bottles already on the same plugs!! I'll check later on

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12.4 is pushing it with one power adder, just seems a little lean on juice.
What is ideal for spray? We did try one run on the dyno, with the bottle off, but nitrous mode 'on'

The AFR was 10 flat! horsepower dropped nasty to 174!!

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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i would try keeping it around 11.5~11.8
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Keep in mind that this a DYNAPACK DYNAMOMETER so there is no rollers like a traditional dyno, the axles actually attach to the DYNAPACK DYNAMOMETER, these type of Dynos are supposed to be the most accurate. Maybe thats why it reads lower than most other members dyno #'s. Take it to the track and run a few passes and then fill us in
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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That fantasic!!! I was there a few months ago and made 236 whp @ 12 psi!
Its nice to see someone else on that dyno again!
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Keep in mind that this a DYNAPACK DYNAMOMETER so there is no rollers like a traditional dyno, the axles actually attach to the DYNAPACK DYNAMOMETER, these type of Dynos are supposed to be the most accurate. Maybe thats why it reads lower than most other members dyno #'s. Take it to the track and run a few passes and then fill us in
Well said. I'm going to change my clutch soon, it's got almost 30k miles (Yes it's the factory clutch) and I know that it will slip with the drag radials I hve sitting at home. Mybe I'll hit Fontana in April. I sure hope I see some 12's on the board!

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That fantasic!!! I was there a few months ago and made 236 whp @ 12 psi!
Its nice to see someone else on that dyno again!
Yeah, Mike was telling me about you. I remember you posted, but I read it after you had gone. It turns out I actually went to High School with one of the techs there, Cysco. Class of 98! Damn, I feel old now

If I add a shorty header and a catless downpipe, do you guys think it will hit 290HP?

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Dynojet numbers of the currency of the internet board.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
i would try keeping it around 11.5~11.8
Since Stage 3 can't be tuned would manually adjusting the psi on a meth kit to get the appropriate afr be a good solution to get it a bit safer?
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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or run a slightly larger pulley
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Since Stage 3 can't be tuned would manually adjusting the psi on a meth kit to get the appropriate afr be a good solution to get it a bit safer?
nope, but changing the amount of air flow works

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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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thoughs are some pretty weak ass stage 2 numbers...ur tq numbers going from stage 2 to the stage 3 really confuse me though...didn't think stage 3 even with 100 octane could do 300 tq
Thats cause it didn't. On average, nitrous adds 75%-100% MORE torque than hp. Hence the 300 ft-lbs.

Also, it would seem MUCH safer if you switched to a wet kit, rather than dry. With that lean of an AFR your asking for a burned piston.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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217 hp only at stage 2 wtf
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Well, to be fair, the stage 2 run was the last run. The car was already at 210 degrees. I wanted to see the most out of the stage 3 run.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Has anyone blown their motor on the 50 shot with stage 3 setup? I haven't found any but I was wondering if I missed one.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Thats cause it didn't. On average, nitrous adds 75%-100% MORE torque than hp. Hence the 300 ft-lbs.

Also, it would seem MUCH safer if you switched to a wet kit, rather than dry. With that lean of an AFR your asking for a burned piston.
No thanks, I'd never go wet through an intake pipe, especially pre-blower. I'd rather get a slighlty larger pulley, put the paper filter back on, or switch to a 40-45 shot. Besides, it's the injectors that dump more fuel for when the nitrous activates. I've already gone through 3 10lbs bottles of nitrous and the engine with 30k still runs fine. Other people have blown their engines with less power. Well, let's see what happens.

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Has anyone blown their motor on the 50 shot with stage 3 setup? I haven't found any but I was wondering if I missed one.
Not that I know of. Anyone else?

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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Someone a while back was talking about their buddy that sprayed with S3 racing a Vette and blew the engine...but that was right after S3 came out...
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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I thought that was pretty damn good!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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Someone a while back was talking about their buddy that sprayed with S3 racing a Vette and blew the engine...but that was right after S3 came out...
ALOT of balt owner's blow there motor cause they dont monitar IAT's.. both 1 and 2.. i had blown piston ring land's in #4 and a blown cat... the guy who bought my RL found out and get everything replaced under warrenty.. it was a stage 2 IRL with BASIC bolt on's.. and after the CAT went the ringland's went to.. boosting 19 PSI on a stage 2 tune isnt possible according to GM.. but i had cell phone vid's of the car doing it at 135+ mph.. after i sold it of course they found the issue.. my car was in the shop for 34day's and no real answer as to why it coudnt go about 5.5k.. and that's a saturn engineer that tore **** down..
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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What are the levels as far as cool/normal/should prolly watch it/you're about fucked/you are fucked IAT wise?

Thanks guys for answering the questions. I'd like to run S3 pretty soon but want to make sure I have all the info I need first.

Also I plan on not lowering my pulley past the stage 2 level just because most of what I've read on here just doesn't seem like it would be beneficial. And I/E + 50 shot would get me where I want without having to keep pushing the engine all the time.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Update:

Well I have NOT blown anything and the motor is running strong. Currently at about 67k miles and went through plenty of bottles.

Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Thats cause it didn't. On average, nitrous adds 75%-100% MORE torque than hp. Hence the 300 ft-lbs.

Also, it would seem MUCH safer if you switched to a wet kit, rather than dry. With that lean of an AFR your asking for a burned piston.
No burned Pistons

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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yep. because i know what to do.

he has more torque. not hp



we're not done yet kiddies

12.4 afr on bottle fun is asking for it
Update for Area:
37k miles later and everything is in tact!!

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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Update:

Well I have blown anything and the motor is running strong. Currently at about 67k miles and went through plenty of bottles.



No burned Pistons
Nice man!

You need to re-dyno now that your car is working 100%. Wasn't your intercooler pump shot at the time of these tests? Keep me posted on your results!!
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