Official Procharger Build Thread
07-12-2007, 03:00 PM
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07-12-2007, 03:08 PM
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so that is not "True" but for people that are Brain Washed and believe the Centrifugal SC dont make power till higher upper end rpm then keep thinking that 
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07-12-2007, 03:14 PM
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No...Its a Bosch By-Pass Valve...and not it is on the right way... i have it aiming up instead of down so you guys can see it but if you really want me to i will take off the pipe and flip it for you 
Recap is....
ChevyTech...posted an idea of placing a SpeedMafia Procharger kit for the 2.2L on a LSJ 2.0 for a couple of reasons but over the last month...ChevyTech has fitted the Bracket, fitted the mounting adapter, fitted and designed the intake manifold adapter, fitted the belt for a 2.95" pulley, now its a matter of piping from blower to TB and CAI piping, and then buying the real head unit and tuning and making the numbers
Recap is....
ChevyTech...posted an idea of placing a SpeedMafia Procharger kit for the 2.2L on a LSJ 2.0 for a couple of reasons but over the last month...ChevyTech has fitted the Bracket, fitted the mounting adapter, fitted and designed the intake manifold adapter, fitted the belt for a 2.95" pulley, now its a matter of piping from blower to TB and CAI piping, and then buying the real head unit and tuning and making the numbers
im just givin ya ****
07-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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I cant wait to get this done. To bad I had pink eye last weekend or it would be even closer to complete. So, If one more part shows up in the mail then we are set to finish the mock-up this weekend. (also ordered some transformer decals for when it completed!)
07-12-2007, 05:23 PM
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There's really no way to say at this point. Each have their own pros and cons. The only thing that can be said for sure is that they both have good potential. IMO, the procharger will be the easier swap and the gains will be nice with smooth acceleration which could prove to exist more easily with the FWD setup and the suspension (As far as traction is concerned).
07-12-2007, 05:58 PM
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Ok here is the thing guys. with the whipple once you go that way you can only go back to the stock sc. You wont be able to swap to another sc with the procharger atleast you can go to the c2. thats what you have to remember. You cant put a bigger roots charger on there due to the fact we have bad hood clearance
so i think the procharger is going to be a better idea for those who look to seek different upgrades later
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Everytime you want to swap the roots sc you will have to a) add a new adapter plate b) intake pipe and intake manifold.
so i think the procharger is going to be a better idea for those who look to seek different upgrades later
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Everytime you want to swap the roots sc you will have to a) add a new adapter plate b) intake pipe and intake manifold.
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07-12-2007, 06:42 PM
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Here my opinion on the matter of procharger VS twinscrew: The twinscrew is good for a bit better low end TQ. But most of us are after top end pull. And the procharger out flows the smaller twinscrews. To get the better air flow numbers out of a twinscrew you talking about a W140AX and that is very large. And to me either way you look at it. Its all going to be top end pull. To get a twinscrew to produce air flow you have to spin it fast just like
the procharger. And with the amount of piping we are using the difference in low end TQ will not be very much.
And you could upgrade past the C2. The only problem is a little clearence. But if you want that big of a supercharger. Your not going to worry about clearence(And if I remeber right, The bracket could house a bigger blower). Your going to worry about breaking transmissions and engine parts. Or keeping the tires planted.
Just my .02 about the comparision.
the procharger. And with the amount of piping we are using the difference in low end TQ will not be very much.
And you could upgrade past the C2. The only problem is a little clearence. But if you want that big of a supercharger. Your not going to worry about clearence(And if I remeber right, The bracket could house a bigger blower). Your going to worry about breaking transmissions and engine parts. Or keeping the tires planted.
Just my .02 about the comparision.
07-12-2007, 07:06 PM
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Chev there has to be a target HP that you guys are looking at. What is it and how much more do you think you could get above your target? Sorry if you already answere this.
07-12-2007, 11:11 PM
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There's really no way to say at this point. Each have their own pros and cons. The only thing that can be said for sure is that they both have good potential. IMO, the procharger will be the easier swap and the gains will be nice with smooth acceleration which could prove to exist more easily with the FWD setup and the suspension (As far as traction is concerned).
Ok here is the thing guys. with the whipple once you go that way you can only go back to the stock sc. You wont be able to swap to another sc with the procharger atleast you can go to the c2. thats what you have to remember. You cant put a bigger roots charger on there due to the fact we have bad hood clearance
so i think the procharger is going to be a better idea for those who look to seek different upgrades later
edit:
Everytime you want to swap the roots sc you will have to a) add a new adapter plate b) intake pipe and intake manifold.
so i think the procharger is going to be a better idea for those who look to seek different upgrades later
edit:
Everytime you want to swap the roots sc you will have to a) add a new adapter plate b) intake pipe and intake manifold.
Here my opinion on the matter of procharger VS twinscrew: The twinscrew is good for a bit better low end TQ. But most of us are after top end pull. And the procharger out flows the smaller twinscrews. To get the better air flow numbers out of a twinscrew you talking about a W140AX and that is very large. And to me either way you look at it. Its all going to be top end pull. To get a twinscrew to produce air flow you have to spin it fast just like
the procharger. And with the amount of piping we are using the difference in low end TQ will not be very much.
And you could upgrade past the C2. The only problem is a little clearence. But if you want that big of a supercharger. Your not going to worry about clearence(And if I remeber right, The bracket could house a bigger blower). Your going to worry about breaking transmissions and engine parts. Or keeping the tires planted.
Just my .02 about the comparision.
the procharger. And with the amount of piping we are using the difference in low end TQ will not be very much.
And you could upgrade past the C2. The only problem is a little clearence. But if you want that big of a supercharger. Your not going to worry about clearence(And if I remeber right, The bracket could house a bigger blower). Your going to worry about breaking transmissions and engine parts. Or keeping the tires planted.
Just my .02 about the comparision.
start a new thread, guys. totally not the place for this convo.
07-12-2007, 11:40 PM
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Well lets get one thing straight buddy you are probably right but after a few beers I have decided that you are an ass LOL! No but seriously I should of directed the question more to the product developers so sorry and it won't happen again.
07-12-2007, 11:54 PM
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So found something on youtube from SPEEDMAFIA when they did the kit for the 2.2 ion
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WfMGDZbfZzo
Also chevy emailed you back
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WfMGDZbfZzo
Also chevy emailed you back
07-13-2007, 12:52 PM
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it all really depends on what you're looking for.
plus the "lag" for the procharger really shouldn't be much of an issue... it's making boost right away.. just not 10 psi ....and it'll give you better traction off the link IMO
07-13-2007, 01:14 PM
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basically what I said in the beginning however.. whichever flows better will give you a better top end... so in which case the procharger should give a better top end..
it all really depends on what you're looking for.
plus the "lag" for the procharger really shouldn't be much of an issue... it's making boost right away.. just not 10 psi ....and it'll give you better traction off the link IMO
it all really depends on what you're looking for.
plus the "lag" for the procharger really shouldn't be much of an issue... it's making boost right away.. just not 10 psi ....and it'll give you better traction off the link IMO