2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Only seeing 2lbs on the 2.4

If the bypass valve is good, and there is no leak, what else is there to check? The dyno numbers aren't lying either (176tq).

Is a slight growl at idle normal? You can barely hear the s/c whine at WOT.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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manifold leak, BELT SLIP
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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More Boostage! Drop that pulley!

If you aren't making boost or hearing it... that would be your problem... or not an open enough Intake. I REALLY doubt it is belt slip... unless you have a really large belt on there. And if it was a leak... you'd still hear the S/C loud and clear.

At least I think...
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
More Boostage! Drop that pulley!

If you aren't making boost or hearing it... that would be your problem... or not an open enough Intake. I REALLY doubt it is belt slip... unless you have a really large belt on there. And if it was a leak... you'd still hear the S/C loud and clear.

At least I think...
lol u sound so confident and smart and then ruin it by well atleast i think so
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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how do you know that your bypass valve is good? It probably wouldn't wine much if the bypass was open, but it may still put in some pressure at WOT due to the small bypass opening. I'd bet the the engines have around the same crank pulley sizes and what not, so i'd think that 3.34 would boost significantly for the 2.4. 10lbs of boost is plenty
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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I don't know if it is good. How can I check it?
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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With the vehicle off... you can start by opening and closing the By-Pass manually. It should be relatively smooth... and should return by itself to its original position.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Did you install the kit yourself?
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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it wasn't a kit. it was alot of parts that are needed in order to supercharge the car.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Sounds like belt slippage. Smaller belt, bigger tensier, or adjust to take more slack out. Make that sucker *TIGHT*
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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is the belt hot right after the dyno run... thats a good indicator that the belt is slipping. how much boost is it running? you never told us.
also these blowers are pretty quiet unless you have a loud cai intake on them. and also most guys are revving the 2.0 to at least 7k rpms what is your 2.4 revving to?
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
is the belt hot right after the dyno run... thats a good indicator that the belt is slipping. how much boost is it running? you never told us.
also these blowers are pretty quiet unless you have a loud cai intake on them. and also most guys are revving the 2.0 to at least 7k rpms what is your 2.4 revving to?
In the title it says 2 lbs. I would guess that is max that he is seeing.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
is the belt hot right after the dyno run... thats a good indicator that the belt is slipping. how much boost is it running? you never told us.
also these blowers are pretty quiet unless you have a loud cai intake on them. and also most guys are revving the 2.0 to at least 7k rpms what is your 2.4 revving to?
Read his title...

It says, " Only seeing 2lbs on the 2.4"

So are you running the stock S/C pully from a cobalt? The 3.4"

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Yeah that's all I'm seeing. I'm with the car right now, we are going to adjust the belt on the pulley to see if it helps any but that's all I can do.

Switched the bypass valve with another ss/sc bypass valve and the same thing happens.

We also sprayed all the connections, manifold and what not to check for leaks and we have no leaks. Stumped.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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damn dat sucks...man..i hope u get everything work out
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Well a bigger displacement engine will make less boost then a smaller one running the same blower but I would have thought the stock pulley from the 2.0 should have been good for more then 2 pounds of boost. Like said above check the belt since you already checked the bov. If you still got nothing looks like your gonna need a pulley swap.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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100% sure it's belt slippage. If it was the bypass you wouldn't be making ANY boost
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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You don't need a lot of boost and should read less I thought because of the larger displacement. though that much less I don't know for sure.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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You don't need a lot of boost and should read less I thought because of the larger displacement. though that much less I don't know for sure.
Why does everyone think that just because it's larger it will show less on the gauge? If the head flow's a significant amount more air then YES it would show less but his numbers blow so it's belt slippage.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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i have da stock belt...do u think the stg 2 belt is to long? for the stock pulley on a 2.4?
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
Why does everyone think that just because it's larger it will show less on the gauge? If the head flow's a significant amount more air then YES it would show less but his numbers blow so it's belt slippage.
less will show on the gauge because theres more room in the cylinders and more vaccuum created by them t suck the boosted air in, lowering manifold PSI, but it would only be lowered 1-2 PSI, not 8PSI, so thats definitely not the reason its not working
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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guys... rebel did this swap and they showed 8lbs i believe with the stock pulley (like he has).. boosting 2lbs is horrible, obviously something is wrong..

checking belt slip would be my first guess
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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belt slip?..dats what everyone is saying lol...i believe hes checking it
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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I guarantee the bypass valve actuator is good. I'll let you know why. I went down to SMG autosports today to try to help this cause, to drop off my Turbo manifold to get ported, and to get a touch up on my tune.

In the search for the problem We switched my working bypass valve actuator off my car and put it on his, Same results, I ended up taking his bypass valve actuator and sticking it on my car so we didn't have to take it off his again, call us lazy but at least we know that its not that piece. And it works find on my car now.

To see if it was the belt or the SC (early suspicions were that the SC was junk) we undid the valve (plugged the vac line), so it was in the closed position all the time and revved it, where it showed 5lbs of boost.

SO..... the real question is, why doesn't the bypass valve close when the actuator is hooked up??

Thats what we need an answer to to solve the problems.

Bet you didn't know that did you PJK?
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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I'm guessing that the air solenoid that switches to open/close the bypass vavle.. Either its not hooked up right, or its not functioning correctly, keeping the bypass valve slightly/open mostly closed
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